Reminds me of the Therac-25 incident..
this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2023
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As a diabetic, holy fucking shit! I've been on the fence about getting a pump because it's just one more thing that can fail.
I don't think you should take that as a main/sole argument against using a pump, there are many other pump manufacturerers oit there. I fir example am very happy with ma Dana i. (Apperently unlike the Omnipod, which seems very odd to me tbh) it has some saftey functions built into the device itself, so even if the controling software on my phone fucks up and doesn't respect it's hard limits the pumps driver still will. Unlike Apps or any management software I imagine the driver to be quite simple and thus less prone to errors like that.
Has nothing to do with the pump though. Just get like a omnipod dash
Huh? The omnipod dash is another pump from the same company that also has an app. What's the difference? They're both susceptible to bugs.
Yes it absolutely has something to do with the pump.
No? Love the downvotes from people who don't even know about this.
It's an error in the phone app for the omnipod 5. It does NOT happen in the management device of the omnipod 5 or any other omnipod.
The omnipod dash system does NOT have a phone app that can control the pump, only one that can monitor the stats. The PDM for the dash or the omnipod 5 does NOT have this bug, it is only in the android phone app for the omnipod 5.
So no. It's not a pump / pod problem.
You being scared is unwarranted and has nothing to do with pump systems in general.
I mean, if their app is suspectable to a bug that could literally kill you, I would never trust anything from that company again. It's excruciatingly important that they don't fuck up, and they did
I mean.. i can guarantee someone manually inserting insulin has definitely made mistakes in their dosage. For sure.
Their PDMs are fine and more seriously tested. I agree that you shouldn't use the phone app, but that's for most people because it's early in dev (there isn't even an iphone version yet) and their other stuff is way older.
I think people understand this, but it's not just the stated bug that give people pause.
If they screwed up this, then what are the odds they made similar as yet unknown mistakes. Seems reasonable to demand some transparency to determine whether the circumstances leading to this screwup are truly limited to this one app versus a more systematic QA issue that could result in other mistakes in other products and software.
What does the phone app do and what's it used for? I was under the impression that you input something you calculated on the phone, but it seems that's a wrong impression. Could you elaborate a bit?
Onmipod Dash only has a phone app to look at what it's doing. Control is with the PDM.
Omnipod 5 has a phone app and a pdm that can control the pod. Only that phone app has this bug. Either you calculate it yourself and bolus or let the device make an approximation