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Got this email from Autodesk that Fusion is increasing their annual price by a huge amount. I subbed for 1 year a couple years ago for I think $380. Then I was able to get an educational sub after that. Fusion is still the cheapest CAD software out there, not including the free stuff like FreeCAD, but still, this price increase is massive.

It should be noted that it's still free to use for personal use minus the extra features.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's one of the biggest problems of the whole 3d printing ecosystem that so many people are relying on software like fusion or tinkercad that could shut down, lose its free option, and see massive price increases on subscription software.

I wish I could wrap my head around freecad, but we're just not there yet and we may never be. I feel like it or something like it must be our future because until we have a full libre software chain we're living on borrowed time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’ve started watching a freeCAD tutorial series on YouTube. It’s a little slow going, since I don’t have a huge amount of time to dedicate to it, but it’s amazing how quickly the basics can be picked up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is going to be a TON of progress next year. I think 2024, freecad will be very usable for hobbyits.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

2024, the year of ~~Linux desktop~~ Freecad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Always 1 year away!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'm a hobbyist, and I find FreeCAD very usable already. But then, my beard is long enough that I remember all of the art and design I did back in the day in all those old janky software packages running in DOS (sometimes even in as much as 640x480!) so maybe my tolerance for obtuse horseshit is higher than most.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey, give us one of those cool privacy respecting links if you don't mind :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I've just become a CAD hobo or squater you could say. There will always be one ""free"" piece of cad software that caters to the casual 3D printer and I've just accepted that they will inevitably raise the price and I'll just have to jump ship again. But, at least I get to keep all the knowledge and that is what counts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wish I could wrap my head around freecad, but we’re just not there yet and we may never be.

May I ask why it is that you say this?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I also have this question. What is so different about the workflow between FreeCAD and other 3D CAD software? If you can do one, you can do the others.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

FreeCAD is a strange mix of over-designed and unfinished.

There's like three different workflows for doing parametric CAD, plus a drafting workflow for an AutoCAD architectural experience, plus workbenches for meshes, NURBS, etc. Occasionally a tool you need will be in another workbench. There is no official assembly workbench included. It's not exactly obvious how workbenches work together. A lot of shortcuts which have become Just How You Do Things in other CAD software aren't present, so you have to do things an awkward long way. Add-ons and macros can help...but are poorly documented if at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The learning curve is steeper mostly due to tools not having as intuitive names and ui layout.

I dove into fusion 360 last year and was making functional and nice parts within the first couple of hours. Since moving to Linux I've tried freecad and while I can eventually find the tools that do the same things, it is less intuitive to get there.

Additionally, when I run into a roadblock in fusion 360, I can usually find quick and easy explanations or tutorials for it, and just have not had the same luck with freecad. I can usually get the hurdle crossed with the tutorials but I find I have to look up the same stuff often as it doesn't stick.

This is all nebulous as all hell, I admit. And I can vaguely tell that it does all the same things similarly to fusion 360, but it's just different and obscured enough that I feel useless and obtuse using it and spend more time searching for tutorials and answers than I do designing.

I want to learn it. I want to use it. But I still find myself in fusion 360 when I need to get a part designed sooner rather than later - it took less effort and faffing around to get fusion 360 working in proton ge than getting to a stable point using freecad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Well put. I have the exact same experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The learning curve is steeper mostly due to tools not having as intuitive names and ui layout.

I dove into fusion 360 last year and was making functional and nice parts within the first couple of hours. Since moving to Linux I've tried freecad and while I can eventually find the tools that do the same things, it is less intuitive to get there.

Additionally, when I run into a roadblock in fusion 360, I can usually find quick and easy explanations or tutorials for it, and just have not had the same luck with freecad. I can usually get the hurdle crossed with the tutorials but I find I have to look up the same stuff often as it doesn't stick.

This is all nebulous as all hell, I admit. And I can vaguely tell that it does all the same things similarly to fusion 360, but it's just different and obscured enough that I feel useless and obtuse using it and spend more time searching for tutorials and answers than I do designing.

I want to learn it. I want to use it. But I still find myself in fusion 360 when I need to get a part designed sooner rather than later - it took less effort and faffing around to get fusion 360 working in proton ge than getting to a stable point using freecad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've got an IQ of 87. So far, tinkercad is basically the best 3d modelling program for me so I can make stuff by using arrow keys to move around basic shapes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

XD

Well at least you're honest

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Rhino 8 is very easy to use now with a new option like in sketchup for push/pull. They have a perpetual license so no subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Blender is not designed as a CAD software. It is for 3d modeling. So you would use Blender to make graphics for a video game, or a 3d movie.

CAD is more for designing things to be made outside of a computer, so 3d printing, CNC or stuff like that.

Blender doesn't consider the object as a whole, and can leave holes that a CAD setup would handle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can still use blender though if you know how to model in it already. Just don't leave holes and you will be fine. I use that for a lot of 3d prints I make just because I am already comfortable with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Blender workflow is very different to a CAD workflow. It's ok for small things, but if you need to design some complex functional parts with tight tolerances, you will waste a lot of time in Blender.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

blender can be used as cad software, but for any practical application, you want parametric design.