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Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive (signal.org)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We estimate that by 2025, Signal will require approximately $50 million dollars a year to operate—and this is very lean compared to other popular messaging apps that don’t respect your privacy.

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[–] u_tamtam 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: Sorry, I responded to the wrong parent.

I don't believe Matrix is better positioned than XMPP to succeed. On a technical aspect, Matrix hasn't managed to stabilize its protocol, and they've been a decade into it. This has resulted in only a single organization being in charge of the protocol, the client and the server implementations. This isn't sound, this isn't sustainable. And now, unsurprisingly, this organization is in a financial crisis, has lost important customers, has no budget secured to maintain its staff in the next years, and recently underwent a major licensing change that we can only interpret as a shift towards an opencore model at the detriment of the regular user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The license change is to a GPL variant from the Apache license. How does that affect the regular user? Wouldn't it be better?

[–] u_tamtam 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't pretend to know the future, but if you read between the lines and the justifications provided, this isn't really about AGPL per se, but about Element brokering AGPL exceptions. Practically we can expect all kinds of forks with opencore options that might enshittify the user experience in different ways, and further solidification of Element's single-handed control over Matrix (which had been a prime concern for many years). Matrix is by the day closer to the closed-source centralized silos it was first pretending to oppose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

And don't forget the CLA!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I hear what youre saying, I don't like the license exceptions. I just hope it doesnt go that route.