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[–] [email protected] 75 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't mean fragile ego management and oh my real estate is devalued jackasses won't fight for return to office tooth and nail.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

At the end of the article:

Younger firms and CEOs also tend to be more enthusiastic about hybrid work arrangements, meaning they’ll get more popular over time as existing business heads retire, he added.

So don't worry, those fragile ego managers will die out over time.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I don’t want hybrid, I want full remote. Hybrid means I still have to live in a stupid expensive city to have a decent job. Full remote means I can go live where I want.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

This... I recently took a fully-remote position, but my wife is hybrid so we're still tied down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was on hybrid. I hated it. I was so much more productive at home where I could be comfortable and distraction-free. If you want work friends, fine. Go to the office. Never again for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

in a fully remote environment you can still establish relationships at work, you just have to go out of your way. Ask people to have a small 5 min chat over ms teams. Worked out well for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

My employer went fully WFH for their engineering/tech teams just before the pandemic. Our CEO specifically stated the desire was to hire the best engineering talent no matter where in the world they were, and not make anybody feel left out.

In roughly the last year or so they have encouraged employees who live less than an hour away from an office to come in a couple times a month. So I guess that technically we’re hybrid as well now. But they again made it clear that it’s only if it’s within a reasonable distance.

I personally haven’t set foot in one of our offices since 2019. The office closest to me is 2+ hours away in another state. I have coworkers on my team that would have 6+ hour drives. And then there are employees living in other countries throughout Europe & Asia who certainly aren’t going to commute to our Berlin office…

Hybrid is perfectly fine as long as the employer doesn’t try to blindly force it on everybody without exception.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

We did all of our meetings via Zoom whether we were in the office or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Hybrid work in a giant organisation - on Wednesdays my whole team is in the office, but of the ten of us, no three are in the same site, so it's on WebEx anyway

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Oh don't worry, just as many of the young managers have a fragile ego. You're just going to see it come out differently.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, no.

Narcissists and antisocial types have weaseled their way into positions of power since time immemorial.

They will continue to do so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why this got downvotes, there is even research supporting this.

edit: Maybe it's the common misunderstanding of what it means to be "antisocial" in psychology? Many are still not aware it has nothing to do with keeping to yourself or other socially neutral behaviours.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

There’s always a few downvoters in each thread downvoting innocuous comments. Luckily the points are made up and the votes don’t matter.

[–] bikesarethefuture 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget car companies and oil lobby will fight it really hard so we can keep burning our planet

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We should tax busniess who could have workers WFH but don't let them to cover the societal costs they impose lien traffic and pollution

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just require employers to pay for 60 minutes of travel time a day every time employees have to go to the office no matter where the employee lives and you'll see they'll start sweating.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would almost* like to see that litigated again. Last time the argument was "people have had to travel to their workplace before starting since time immemorial, so no change now"

But now that for many jobs the work location is arbitrary that argument wont be so easy.

*"Almost" since the money would still be on the other side

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish we didn't need these things to go to court for them to change, but it would require an extremely progressive government in power for that to happen in any country...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Government doesn't help much with court, except where they change the law

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's what I meant, why should we need to go to court to get that right recognized when it should be the government changing the law without court intervention?