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I keep thinking we need monero insurance (life, health, auto, etc) where premiums are paid in monero and benifits are only paid out in monero. What services do you think we need?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but that also assumes that most people are smart enough to do that. Have you seen the way some people financially plan? Most people could not afford, say, cancer treatment by themselves, no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, it does take some effort on your part if you wish to be come independent and prepared.

As for cancer, it can be easily prevented as it is a disease caused by deficiency in an essential compound (vitamin B-17) which most people do not ingest. More info: https://monero.town/post/1263720

Just like the disease scurvy was just a simple deficiency in vitamin C but the experts were baffled for hundreds of years even though the solution was already known by many people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, I was only using cancer as an example, but medical expenses, car crashes, big things like that, that would ruin a person. Your house burning down could be any number of things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but you cannot spend your whole existence just worrying about what might happen. It is better to plan in a way where the wealth will end up in your hands if nothing happens instead of the insurance company.

Medical expenses are not that bad if you know what you are doing. They cannot refuse care, so once you are patched up and you get the 100x overpriced bill you let them know what you are willing to pay and you can negotiate it down to a fair price. Since they do not tell you the cost up front that means it is up for negotiation. If they refuse to be reasonable then you just don't pay it. It works, I have done it.

Now with the advent of crypto your wealth is untouchable by the main mafias so leverage is on your side in negotiations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh, i see your point But I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Most people are quite financially irresponsible, and I would not want to be in a situation where i am reliant on somebody else to make me whole. In a car crash, for example, if I am not the one at fault, and they don't have any kind of insurance, then it's up to me to replace my car, pay my medical bills, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What I am saying is that if you plan responsibly and understand how the system works you will have enough wealth to cover you in any situation.

If you are a wage slave, don't know anything about contract law, and have $300 in your bank account then yes you need insurance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And how many people do you know that "plan responsibly", are not " wage slaves", and understand contract law? Because personally, I cannot name a single person that would fit that category in my entire life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You should be that person. Don't worry about others.

I will admit that having car insurance is most likely a good idea given that is the most dangerous activity that most people engage in, but that's about it. You can however minimize this by owning a car you can afford and driving cautiously, then your premiums can be super low.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, but I still have to convert to fiat to pay it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If there were insurance companies offering services for Monero I would most likely buy some insurance 👍 😀

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure the link you sent works on my app, but after doing a quick search, Vitamin B-17 has been banned by the FDA and is even regarded as dangerous.

https://www.webmd.com/cancer/amygdalin-cancer-treatment

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

FDA also approved poison injections a couple years ago, so.... The FDA is there to protect big pharma profits, no cancer, no profits, simple.

FDA approved drugs cause millions of deaths yearly, why not banned yet?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Phew, financial advice from someone who believes cancer is "easily preventable"

Thank goodness I was kicked in the head by a horse this morning

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

and this is why you are a worker and I am an owner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am an owner, idiot-boy 😂

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow, clown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Bear in mind there's only one country where they still do that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Are you taking these B-17 supplements daily? I'm just as much as a cynical person as the next guy, especially when it would comes to the pharmaceutical industry, but since cancer affects all life on this earth, I think there is a little more nuance. The cynicism in me says that this B-17 vitamin is being pushed by 'big supplement', the other side of the coin trying to sell products to consumers and corralling vitriol for modern medicine.

'Natural' and Modern medicine can coexist, they both can work and you can also trust neither. As a recipient of the 'poison injection' you are talking about, I am feeling fine so far.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

No, I do not take B17, my diet contains food that has it. A high quality source is available here: https://rncstore.com for anyone that is looking.

Modern medicine is useful if you have an injury and need emergency care. For degenerative diseases all it can offer is symptom control at the expense of toxifying your body and most likely triggering more serious illness later in life.

Not all people who have been injected with the juice will suffer, there are many factors involved. The point is that the injections were 100% useless and most likely harmful.