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So far Lemmy is vibing. Everyone here is excited and optimistic and willing to put up with a few rough spots to be part of something.

When the Eternal September comes, which it will, how does a Lemmy instance deal with bad actors?

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Individual instances will have to moderate themselves. If they become chaotic, other instances should unfederate them. But as users, you should also subscribe to communities you think are behaving well and block users/communities that are not.

Also, I have seen some users who are "grabbing" as many communities as possible, namely @[email protected]. Dude is moderating 60 communities, in an instance that started a few days ago.. He is not building the communities, he is just power tripping it seems. @ruud@[email protected], something might have to be done about that in the future. I suggest some sort of "requestcommunity", in which you can apply to become the mod of said community, if community is being badly run (or not run at all).

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There should be a limit on how many communities you can create in a given time span

[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There should be a limit on how many communities you can run, period. This is how we got super-mods like GallowBoob on Reddit

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I upvoted this post and I saw a popup "report created" this is not what I intended, I completely agree with this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've seen spontaneous "report created" molesΒΉ as well. It's not clear to me that a report is actually being created; it seems like a UI bug.

ΒΉ "mole" : a pop-up div that appears from the bottom of the page.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mole? What's the difference between a mole and a toast?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure. I'm not a frontend dev myself; "mole" was the term I heard from people who were.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Oh. I think they are most commonly called "toasts". Called such, because they pop up from the bottom like toast from a toaster. I've also heard them just referred to as "alerts" or "notifications", but I think that's a bit ambiguous. Android likes to call interactive ones "snack bars", which is kind of silly. "Moles" is new to me as a term for them, but I think it's quite fitting too, yeah, I like it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Oh phew, that happened to me earlier - I thought I had accidentally submitted a false report

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

And how does that stop them creating multiple accounts to multiply the limit? It doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Agreed on both of these. I made four within my first day or so, with three being pretty niche to very niche, and one with the potential to get large if Lemmy continues to grow. After I made that, I called it quits; I made new homes for my favorite Reddit communities and I know that's all I can likely handle if they take off.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There should be a limit on how many communities you can create in a given time span

Yes, I thought of that, but then I am sure they would just create alt accounts to create as many communities as possible. I think the requesting of communities is still the best way. If one wants to be the mod of a community that already has a mod who is moding 50 other communities and is not doing jackshit..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

this. Ihateany "verification" or "request" process as somebody has to do it. But saying that you cant create more than x communities per month or y communities per yearwould pretty much solve the problem.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Will make a rule limiting number of communities per moderator or created per week or something like that. On the to do list.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks for that - that's a big concern in any forum, and it's fantastic to see it addressed here :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, I was going to say. I want to create communities from reddit that are not yet in here. But I don't want to be the one running it. On the other hand. I don't want a guy like that running a community I like. I would gladly create these communities and hand them over to proper mods later on if that's possible.

I'm not mod material.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

It's absolutely possible. I already have a hundful of mods helping keep an eye on TIFU just a day after creating the community. There's definitely people willing to help things run smoothly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same, I want r/collapse and r/climatechange to come to lemmy but I also do not want to be the one running the show. I'm way too inactive regularly for that.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Unfederation should not be used so cavalierly. Instead, community blocks. I know many people that chose lemmy.world because it doesnt block anything and hope it stays that way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Agreed. I'd rather avoid individual communities instead of instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yeap chose lemmy.world because of the server experience. But I've already blocked the communities I don't want to see at a user level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about the ability for users to block instances? I'm sure there's a way I'm not thinking of that this would be problematic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Seems best to me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Isn't this the situation on Reddit, all the big subs moderated by a handful of people? I remember blocking them all years ago.

This is such a good find and 100% something that should be look at. Sorry, I'm also not mod material and can't chip in (with time)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah we don't need supermods here