this post was submitted on 29 Nov 2023
379 points (99.5% liked)

Europe

8324 readers
1 users here now

News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe 🇪🇺

(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, 🇩🇪 ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures

Rules

(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)

  1. Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
  2. No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
  3. No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.

Also check out [email protected]

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

France will ban the selling of single-use e-cigarettes by 2025, French Health Minister Aurélien Rousseau announced on Tuesday during a National Tobacco Control Program (PNLT) presentation, while increasing tobacco taxation.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But that's not wanted and the decision makers are paid by corporations. They have usually (details vary by country) introduced laws to increase price of cheap and not wasteful alternatives via taxes and regulation by up to 5000%, exactly so the same tabacco companies also producing these single use e-cigarettes can push their electronic waste on us instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s my point. It’s not an engineering issue. But an economic issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, it's a political one. A lot of people have spend a lot of work (and lobbyists probably paid a lot of money) to bring us to this point.

Some years ago in Germany there were a lot of people starting with vapes instead of cigarettes. Doing their own coils, mixing their own flavors... so they first restricted premixed liquids containing nicotin. Then they restricted the sizes in which nicoltin shots could be sold. And then (given that a lot of people actually had reduced the nicotin ratio anyway) they threw all "but it's for health reasons"-pretense overboard and are now taxing basic glycerine and propylene glycol bases used for vaping as if they contained nicotin as they could be mixed with some. Meaning that I would have to pay more for 10ml now than for a liter bottle before. And of course buying those freely available liquids used for a lot of other things and using then in my e-cigarette is now tax fraud (and massive one as a 10€ 1 liter bottle now costs about 600€+... all taxes).

This has nothing to do with economic reason. They intentionally basically banned the economic option, so companies (affiliated with tabacco comapnies) producing that electronic waste could get rid of the competition.