this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2023
427 points (98.9% liked)

Technology

58303 readers
11 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Commercial Flights Are Experiencing 'Unthinkable' GPS Attacks and Nobody Knows What to Do::New "spoofing" attacks resulting in total navigation failure have been occurring above the Middle East for months, which is "highly significant" for airline safety.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Modern IRUs also take input from multiple sources (GPS, Navaids) to update their drift error. With spoofed GPS, bad drift corrections are made and when the navigation solution eventually fails the IRU is just as unusable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

ADIRUs will throw out bad GPS data if it disagrees with multiple IRUs, hence why there's usually 3 on the aircraft. That being said, if the GPS is close enough to the three, then correction will still be applied.

If they're using the older IRUs, the drift is corrected via redundancy and not GPS. Usually pilots will report drift based on their final IRU coordinates compared against GPS. Even then, they should still be checking their course with VOR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone with the ability to jam GPS can easily spoof VOR signals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But in this case, they're not. Plus, the crew are going to be the ones determining if their VOR/DME makes sense or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We don't know that they aren't spoofing VOR/DME as well. We might be seeing reports from affected aircraft, rather than specifically targeted aircraft.