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and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it's so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it's a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pre employment and post accident seems completely fine.

  • "Reasonable suspicion" if someone seems altered.

I'll agree randoms are dumb and invasive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Post accident is fine because the question there is "were you actively impaired while working" which is a valid concern. What is pre-employment testing supposed to show that's relevant to the vast majority of jobs though? "Sometimes this person uses recreational drugs." Ok, and what? Are they coming to work impaired? If not, then outside of the medical field and airline pilots, who cares?

Why on earth should a corporation be allowed to require a privacy violating urine test as a condition for employment for a desk job? And even for safety critical jobs like medical or pilots, a pre-employment urine test isn't going to catch abuse of the one drug that is the biggest red flag in the entire collection: alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Many hyper critical jobs have drug screens every time you enter the job site

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not relevant to pre-employment testing being literally useless for the vast majority of jobs

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not? Can't be sober and clean for day 1 after getting an offer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Marijuana stays in people's systems for weeks. I don't think that never smoking pot should be a requirement of employment.

I don't smoke pot. I care about people's liberty. And you're being a prick.