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and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it's so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it's a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They can't do this in Europe unless it's actually dangerous for the job, medical professional, operating heavy industrial machinery, cop etc. It's just because the US has no worker rights laws.

You don't want someone who is still high driving a train, but it's probably fine if all I need to do is off work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

I've also never heard anyone get tested more than once and you can take the test when you want. If you can't produce clean piss once in your life, then you might have a problem.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those are generally the same industries performing the drug tests in the US, too. They only test if they're required to by OSHA, DOT, or insurance due to the nature of the work (i.e. "safety sensitive" roles). I've never done a drug test for an office job or basic labor; but I get regularly tested for my DOT related job.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I've been tested in order to work at Walmart and Jiffy Lube when I was younger.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Walmart and jiffy lube both have heavy equipment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Walmart had a forklift that was only used by certain certified individuals but jiffy lube had no heavy equipment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Didn't have a lift?

Point is, they both can have stuff, regardless of if you are the dude to operate it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No there was no lift or any other heavy equipment or machinery. We had a floor jack and hand tools. I find the idea that US employers drug test primarily for OSHA compliance or due to heavy equipment quite absurd. It's about discrimination (for both the right and wrong reasons) plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Primarily people who smoke pot and then people who use hard drugs like meth and heroin.