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Vegetable is also exclusively a culinary definition. Vegetables are essentially any edible plant structure that are not sweet and aren't the seeds directly (which are grains or nuts). Typically vegetables are flowers, leaves, stems, or roots, but some non-sweet fruits like cucumbers, peppers, and green beans are also squarely in the vegetable category despite definitely being fruits, no reason they can't be both.
And the concept of a vegetable varies culturally. I live in Germany and I consider mais vegetables (it feels weird to call it corn in this context since other grains aren't). In Romania (and elsewhere I guess) potatoes are a vegetable which they aren't for me.
So is potato like a grain to you? In the sense of treating it more like a staple?
Absolutely! Potatoes, grains (except mais) and legumes (except green beans) are carbs (or staples). Polenta is too, despite being made of mais.
I thought that's the default?
In the US carb is not a base category of food its a broader category in which things which are themselves in in other categories belong. EG vegetable and grain are base categories like meat.
I don't know who downvoted that but it wasn't me. I get where you're coming from, but I think more in terms of the part of the plant I suppose.
Carrots, corn, and peas all poke holes in that definition. It's a culinary definition but also an arbitrary and subjective one, trying to define rules just makes it more ridiculous.