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I don't think, that's a good idea, it just screams virtue signaling to me. Also it's pretty anti freedom of speech. This is just so childish, it's embarrassing.
@Overthr0w @uthredii
Or is it actually Free Speech?
The right to hear as well as the right not to hear, as decided by a private invidual or organisation.
he is not just deciding for himself, he is also deciding for others in this case. If he would have just blocked them, that would have been his choice. But he is also making a choice in others' stead. And that has nothing to do with freedom, the others can make a choice on their own. I feel like the term freedom of speech has been degenerated to a tool to push ones own agenda. People try to suppress other opinions, which leads to lack of discourse and radicalization.
@Overthr0w
Yes, he's deciding for other people who use the platform. It's called Moderation.
It means that users don't have to spend their time blocking stuff and can get on with enjoying the platform.
This is not the same as the government blocking everyone's access to something. Where nobody can see certain content. That may be a free speech issue. If you want to see car company's PR, then there are hundreds of other platforms you can go to.
This is free speech. The right to hear as well as not hear on a PRIVATE platform.
@Overthr0w @MrLee Ford's revenues for the first quarter of 2023 were US$41.5 billion.
The big auto companies have more than enough resources to set up their own instances, if they so wish.
There's no obligation on a privately-owned instance to host their accounts. He can moderate his instance how he wishes. He can allow who he likes on his instance.
(Out of curiosity, did these car companies offer to pay any of his hosting costs?)
If you don't agree with his moderation decisions, you don't have to use his instance, or use an instance that federates with his.
As for free speech, I don't see any government action or any legislation that compels this decision.
I just think, that excluding specific people that have not actually done anything wrong yet(at least on this platform) will lead to a homogeneous userbase. And even if he is not obliged to host anyone, I think it would be a way smarter decision if someone, who is aware of their danger, is hosting them. That person could later moderate their usage of their accounts, if they overstep certain limits way sooner than someone hosting them on another instance.