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CHICAGO (CBS) -- It was a broken window complaint that led to a 14-year-old boy being shot by a police officer.

But before being shot, the teen had been repeatedly tasered. The intense pain caused the teen to run.

Dave Savini and the CBS 2 Investigators reveal a disturbing trend of who officers are more likely to use Tasers on.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Abolish the police, retain 911, 999, etc. and divert the funds into a variety of different services such as mental health crisis units.

For violent crimes I would propose a community defense group. These members would be from the area they serve and would be subordinate to a community council structure, their positions immediately revocable, with consistent rotation of staff as to avoid the accumulation of power. There's plenty more to say on the structure of local defense but at the end of the day, police intervening on violent crimes in progress is rare (they often make things worse to boot) and these community defense members would likely not be used much. Also, cops don't prevent violence.

Traffic cops are pointless, inconsistent and have repeatedly resulted in unnecessary deaths. With the exception of catching intoxicated drivers (another thing cops are bad at), they do very little to help. Replace them with publicly funded road rangers and additional EMS staff to handle accidents, traffic management, breakdowns, etc.

Meter maids are pointless, get rid of them. Bylaw enforcement criminalizes poverty, get rid of it. Or if the poors absolutely have to suffer more, have a code enforcement wing (which already exists in most cities) with slightly more responsibility.

Cops shouldn't be handing investigations as they are right now. Robberies, murder, rape, theft, you name it. If they're not handed the perpetrator on a silver platter in the first day or two, they're more likely to drop it than solve it. There should be an independent body tasked with investigating crime. The community defense group can serve warrants and make arrests.

Modern police have too much power, perverse incentives, a terrible history and the broader systemic pressures that maintain their existence are a black mark on society. They need to be torn down and built back from the ground up in a decentralized manner, with a complete shift in focus. Replace them with groups that are actually meant to protect and serve, with unhindered accountability to their community

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You really think that amateurs with very little experience or training are a good way to deal with violent crime?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

No, that's why they want to abolish them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Wait, is this a joke? Are you aware of how little training is required to become a cop in the US?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the US, most police academies are 6 weeks. We have amateurs with very little training performing that job right now. It's going terribly. I think it goes without saying that anyone who's performing community defense roles would need thorough training and vetting before being allowed to serve

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I say let former military members without PTSD do it. They already have a great deal of training in firearms safety and de-escalation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That wouldn't be a bad idea so long as they're vetted like everyone else and don't get in solely on their service. There's a not insignificant amount of ex-military people in the police force as it is so I'm hesitant to say yes outright. But that wouldn't be my call anyway in the system I'm proposing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Lol. Buck ass wild.