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Poll finds that fewer Gen Z boys identify as Feminists than Millenials-- and the same % as Gen X.
(www.mensjournal.com)
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There are also things like dating apps to consider. More and more adults are finding their relationships through dating apps, and women can be pretty disrespectful (obviously this doesn't mean that men aren't disrespectful as well).
"Must be 6'0", have a steady job, must worship me, I hate men if you know what I mean" etc. See too much of that shit, go too long without any matches (alongside things like porn addiction giving you a skewed perspective on what sex/relationships are) and it's hard not to take it personally.
This isn't to say the young men are faultless, by any means. Just something that adds fuel to the fire.
I haven't been in the dating world for quite a while but I assumed that type of profile was pretty rare and just commonly posted online to be ridiculed. Is that not the case?
While it's probably rare to find a profile with everything I listed , many profiles have at least one of the things I mentioned. Most common one I've seen from the list is being unwilling to date men below 6 feet tall. Second most would have to be the "men r bad" or some variation of that.
I'm not comfortable blaming women for how horrible dating is, but I take your point that people can sometimes be pretty disrespectful.
But given that we're making a comparative claim between generations, I wonder if this really explains the difference. Is disrespect on dating apps so much worse for gen Z men than Millennial men that it's making men less feminist? I'm skeptical.
I would not blame women for how bad dating apps are either. But I think the average person would say something like "the women in my area suck" or "women just don't like me" before they think the design of the app itself is part of the problem. Does that make them less feminist? Still probably not, but it could push them towards pickup artists type guys if they are really frustrated.
Obviously it isn't black and white/women bad men good.