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Antiwork

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

The new place for c/[email protected]

This server is no longer working, and we had to move.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

Library copied from reddit:
The Anti-Work Library πŸ“š
Essential Reads

Start here! These are probably the most talked-about essays on the topic.

c/Antiwork Rules

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1. Server Main Rules

The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.world/

2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments

Spamming posts will be removed. Reposts will be removed with the exception of a repost becoming the main hub for discussion on that topic.

Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.

3. Post must have Antiwork/ Work Reform explicitly involved

Post must have Antiwork/Work Reform explicitly involved in some capacity. This can be talking about antiwork, work reform, laws, and ext.

4. Educate don’t attack

No mocking, demeaning, flamebaiting, purposeful antagonizing, trolling, hateful language, false accusation or allegation, or backseat moderating is allowed. Don’t resort to ad hominem attacks against another user or insult other people, examples of violations would be going after the person rather than the stance they take.

If we feel the comment is uncalled for we will remove it. Stay civil and there won’t be problems.

5. No Advertising

Under no circumstance are you allowed to promote or advertise any product or service

6. No factually misleading informationContent that makes claims or implications that can be proven false or misleading will be removed.

7. Headlines

If the title of the post isn’t an original title of the article then the first thing in the body of the post should be an original title written in this format β€œOriginal title: {title here}”.

8. Staff Discretion

Staff can take disciplinary action on offenses not listed in the rules when a community member's actions or general conduct creates a negative experience for another player and/or the community.

It is impossible to list every example or variation of the rules. It is also impossible to word everything perfectly. Players are expected to understand the intent of the rules and not attempt to "toe the line" or use loopholes to get around the intent of the rule.


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[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't fathom cognitive dissonance of being able to say unskilled and implying it isn't equivalent to $0

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can’t fathom

Well, theory of mind is a skill.

Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn't mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case.

Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn't work. Not sure what's so hard to understand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary.

He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone.

So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole.

It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ooo look, a more pointed insult.

You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I know, keep responding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So which are you? The clown or the fool?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Please remain civil.
Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection.

He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't need to defend anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit!

Bravo my friend.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too.

Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes"

Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please tell me what else I don't do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

πŸ‘† This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it