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This magazine (magazines are like subreddits or communities, they are called magazines on kbin) is hosted on kbin. We know this because the address for the magazine is @[email protected]. The first @ sign is the name of the community, the second @ sign is the address of the instance that community is hosted on.
Your account address is @[email protected], so I can see you made your account on kbin.social. So you're probably viewing this from kbin.social as well. Kbin.social is just an instance (a server) that you're using to access the Fediverse.
So the community is on kbin.social, you're on kbin.social, and I also happen to be on kbin.social. But that's mostly just a coincidence. Say if my account were made on lemmy.world, then my account address would be @[email protected]. Because lemmy.world and kbin.social are federated, a lemmy.world user could reply to my comment.
As far as your day-to-day browsing, this isn't super important to know about. But it can be helpful. For instnace, sometimes federated content can take awhile to move from instance to instance. This thread is still pretty new when I'm typing out this comment, so it might not have shown up on other instances yet. That's why if you look around right now, it's mostly people with kbin accounts participating. But give it an hour or two, and there might be a few comments from people using different instances in the fediverse.
I know that was a bit of an info dump, please let me know if there's anything else I can help clarify. I'm still learning this too and find it pretty interesting.
Hey, that's a really good explanation! Thanks for that!
yup we need more explanations like this. What we don't want is knowledge being privately held and people being told "oh dont worry it all works just accept it". That's a recipe for alienation and disaster.
(im curious:
what is a "fediverse"
what is a "magazine"
exactly where is the info stored in the world
exactly who has control of which info)
Is there a diagrammatic wiki where all this is explained? Otherwise it will be too easy for nefarious, evil, greedy, cruel, powermonger types to later on capture the whole of kbin or lemmy or whatever for themselves, and nobody will know what is going on until it is too later. sadly, it is already happening, if you read some of the replies. ugh. cliquey powermonger types..
the worst is where lemmy etc becomes like crypto - nobody knows what the fuck is going on except the very few, who all use big power words to pretend they are smart and hide functionality from everyone. that then produces fascist dictatorships, more hitler-type personalities will arise, then WW3.
I think there's a balancing act that we can achieve to this end. To use driving a car as an analogy, someone doesn't need to know 100% of how a car works in order to learn how to drive it. But there are some basic mechanical things they can learn about that makes it safer for them. Like, how to check their oil.
If the barrier for entry for any social media, let alone Federalized social media, was 100% knowledge of everything, then no one would use it. However, there are absolutely a few things that should be known to stay empowered and safe.
The Fediverse is a collection of severs that talk to each other that publish info and host files. These severs are owned by lots of different people, they are hosted in many different locations, they run on different protocols. Kbin runs off of the Activity Pub protocol, so it can talk to other severs using Activity Pub. (The majority of the Fediverse uses Activity Pub currently).
Kbin has a Magazine where you can discuss the broader Fediverse: https://kbin.social/m/fediverse
A Magazine is what Kbin calls communities. We are currently on /m/RedditMigration (/m/ standing for Magazine). I just mentioned /m/fediverse. Some other good Magazines to note are /m/help for asking questions about Kbin, and /m/kbinMeta for discussing more administrative related issues about kbin.
Lots of different places. If I recall right, Kbin is hosted both in Germany and Poland. But Kbin is not the Fediverse. Kbin is just one little part of it. So far, I've found this resource to be good to see more info about different servers: https://fedidb.org/network.
That is an extremely broad question. There's lots of different information, different context in which that information is important, different touchpoints where different people might have control over what you see or don't see.
Magazines or communities have moderators, much like how Reddit had moderators in Subreddits. Sever administrators can determine what instances they want to federate or defederate with. Individual users can block instances or other users.
Long story short, what makes answering that question so difficult is that the Fediverse is very decentralized. If we were talking about Reddit, then ultimately the puck stops with greddy little piggy /u/Spez, he controls your information. But since we're on a much more decentralized platform, authority is held between many different people. I see it as a good thing imho.
I have to answer a question with a question: what is a diagrammatic wiki? I've not heard of that before, and a quick google didn't really give me a clear answer.
As far as where to go to have all this explained, the wiki article on the Feidverse is a good start imho if you really want to dig in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse. Otherwise, the magazines I listed earlier are good resources. There will be more resources in the future, this is all still very very new, particuarly on kbin. I've been piecing this all together by using the platform and learning about it for about 2 weeks.