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What the title says. Sure, it's gentle on the environment, but it doesn't remove soap scum, grease, grime etc anywhere nearly as effective as other products. I also doubt its efficiency as an antibacterial compared to say alcohol or most detergents.

There, I've said it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I started typing, and realized I have too many opinions about this. I'm sorry.

Vinegar is decent at dissolving sugar, and in that context it works really well for what it is. I usually buy a big jug of it for both cooking and cleaning, but a general purpose cleaner it is not. Side note, adding a small amount to ground meat helps the meat flow a bit better for meat pies or taco mix.

For grease and grime cream of tartar works really well. I cook with stainless steel and sometimes egg or something will burn and stick to a pan. I throw a whack of cream of tartar in the pan along with some water and the pan will pretty much self clean on the stove.

If you're doing dishes by hand because dishwashers aren't meeting your expectations, there's a Technology Connections video about using dishwashers that's worth a watch if you've got 45 minutes to spare and don't mind watching a midwesterner beat a topic to death in the best way possible. Eco-friendly powders exist. Really, the appeal of a dishwasher is to use the mechanical force of water to clean.

For purely antibacterial you just ain't gonna beat alcohol. I mean... it's used at hospitals. For glass cleaning a 50/50 mix of distilled water and pure alcohol won't leave streaks.

A mix of lemon juice and baking soda will get rust stains out of some surfaces. Baking soda paste, followed by some vinegar will clear out toothpaste in a drain.

Probably the harshest chemical I use is bleach, but I only use that for the toilet. Easiest way to clean porcelain by far, and you don't need that much... and really it's kind of a set and forget thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like it's worth noting that the baking soda + lemon juice probably doesn't work as well as just lemon juice alone. By mixing an acid and a base, you're neutralizing one of them and leaving yourself with just a smaller concentration of the other.

I see this misconception all the time, but it's particularly bad when people say to mix baking soda and vinegar to clean with. We've all made baking soda volcanoes, right...? I wouldn't wanna clean with something that behaves like diet coke and mentos, not to mention the fact that it's literally just not as effective as either chemical alone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The actual good way to do it that I've seen recommended and used myself to good effect is a baking soda paste that's left to set and seep in a bit, and then wiping with a rag soaked in vinegar so that the exothermic reaction helps, refresh vinegar as needed. But that's a lot more work than telling people "use baking soda and vinegar, the fizz means it's working" and that's the reason they put lauryl sulfates in shampoo despite it doing nothing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's fine! You have a lot of opinions. My beef is with those who have only one opinion: that vinegar is the one and only and the greatest.

Also I didn't know tartar could help with grease. I'll keep in mind.