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newsletters can have trackers and shit built right in, and this is especially true when using a service to do the mailing. this is, of course, on top of the contact info and anything else requested at 'signup'. none of which needs to be 'required' when reading a web site or an author-submitted post somewhere. there's basically two reasons to lock content behind a 'newsletter': a paid sub is coming, or selling readers' data.
Just because they CAN have trackers doesn't make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.
You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and hides the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally "informed" consent!
The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.
Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
GDPR requires companies to offer a "only neccessary cookies" option that is easily accessible. Anytime you find a site that works as you've described you can and should report them.
Also, there are plenty of options for blocking those popups and/or auto selecting only neccessary.
Doesn't sound like you've been paying attention the last 20 years if you think this highly of tech companies
My opinion is about email, not tech companies. If they're tracking you, it's most likely not through email.
...tech companies use email all day long to link digital data together. Most people who manage a newsletter do not write their own newsletter software. In fact practically none of them do. Ergo, you get tracked via newsletter also.
"They don't use their own service" is not the same as, "this is evidence they do in fact track via email."
What you don't seem to realize is, the signup ITSELF is the data they want, and click through rates. You being on a mailing list is already ample tracking compared to what most people are bitching about... You're GIVING them the info, then whining about them having it...
What a weird hill to die on.
No one is whining about being put on an email list at their own request. Which you obviously know. People were making the point that newsletters aren't magically immune to data tracking.
You can bet your ass the MailChimp is sharing a fuckton of data with advertising partners in order to maximize sales to you. It's not supposed to be controversial. I first just assumed this was something you hadn't thought about. Sadly you seem hostile to information you hadn't considered.
There is no hill to die on. You're just too stupid to know how it actually works, so you assume it's bad.
Moron opts for ignorance, convinced it's enlightenment
You are the cave man screaming about how fire is hot instead of learning how to cook. I hope you're proud of being the smartest moron.
What a great analogy. You just be really proud of your vast knowledge which includes: there exist tech companies who could easily sell your data but suddenly decided not to.
Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You're like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they're currently bleeding out... You've already lost by the point we're talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You've already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up...
If you even remotely want to see the email, they're already tracking you far, FAR more than they'd be able to with email. Click on a link in there? Congratulations: It DOESN'T MATTER what's in the email at that point. You're back in their entire environment and you've signaled email helped get you there. Regardless of what was in the email.
You're complaining about someone stealing food from your fridge and conveniently ignoring that they have to have access to your house to even try it in the first place...