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Was consensus reached on what the vegan/vegetarian community will entail?
Vegetarian/vegan subjects whilst accepting that not everyone has the same views. Anyone that will not accept they have the only correct opinion is free to move elsewhere.
I blocked one person yesterday as they would only accept their own opinion as being the correct one and tried to brow beat others in agreeing. We're done with that here, let's leave it on R****t.
i have absolutely no idea what we're gonna do with that one to be honest. my personal opinion is that it's probably not worth the headache if people are going to make it a battleground and that's been the tendency since we announced it, but the other mods are substantially more optimistic on it than i am so we'll see
What is the debate? They’re two quite different things really, aren’t there two communities?
if we made them two separate communities they'd be two extremely dead ones, since even combined they were one of our least popular options. as result, we're trying to figure out how we can combine them without annoying people or having the community be full of annoying people that make it unfun for the people who'd use it to do so
Ok. I sorta get it but yeah as a vegan I gotta say vegetarianism kinda annoys me a bit just because like…. Why? Animals still suffer and get killed for vegetarian products so what’s ones reasoning behind being vegetarian? It doesn’t help environmental causes being vegetarian as animals still there to pollute and it clearly doesn’t tackle the animal cruelty problem. I do have the benefit of living somewhere I can easily get great vegan fake meat etc so I understand being vegetarian sometimes when this isn’t available so easily, for convenience sake (if that’s a morally justifiable excuse idk) but only with an aim toward veganism, in which case shared group makes sense. That’s where im at, I don’t mean it to be an offensive or aggressive position, it inherently feels it somehow obviously the world being so opposed to my view and me being so sure that the rest of the world just don’t yet see their psychopathy (just how nowadays it’s pretty clear slavery is wrong, 200 years ago peoples opinions less sure…)
This comment does seem to prove their point as it's pretty antagonistic towards people who are doing better than me who is a plain ole meat eater.
This is why we can't have nice things. Regardless of your morality or theirs, this excludes others in a harmful way and is ultimately why I personally greatly dislike and avoid most vegan/vegetarian social communities. I feel like comments such as this are the "battleground" that mods don't want to deal with. In a community that tries to be nice to all, calling out the psychopathy of someone who thinks differently feels very inappropriate and disrespectful on many levels.