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CNN Host Left Stunned As IDF Confirms Israel Hit Refugee Camp With Airstrike (newrepublic.com)

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CNN’s Wolf Blitzer seemed at a lost of words at the justification being used to bomb a refugee camp in Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

here’s a short that highlights Gaza specifically

This a shouting man yelling obscenities at those who disagree. I understand the anger and wanting to push back, but attacking a foe one cannot defeat is a recipe for further loss.

Are you talking about 1948, when the Nakba was happening and expelling people from their homeland? Or 1967 when Israel did a “pre-emptive” strike to start the six day war and get a land grab?

Both are good examples of defeats.

Man, why does this map keep shrinking? Must be a coincidence. Those darn Arabs did some violence and whoopsie we accidently took more land! Man that’s crazy it always seems to work out like that.

It's almost like there's realpolitik consequences for refusing to pacify one's self and sign a peace treaty after losing wars. Crazy. I expect this trend will continue as long as their belligerence does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, you don't know they can't defeat them. Vietnam won against the United States. This kind of fascist state can't last by definition. I only hope it implodes sooner rather than later.

Glad you've been on the side of defending apartheid and genocide. Cool chat.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be fair, you don’t know they can’t defeat them. Vietnam won against the United States. This kind of fascist state can’t last by definition. I only hope it implodes sooner rather than later.

True, but at this point I find it very unlikely. The US wasn't fighting for its right to exist in Vietnam, there is nowhere for Israelis to withdraw to. This conflict is existential to them.

Glad you’ve been on the side of defending apartheid and genocide. Cool chat.

Genocide: if you mean genocide, as in driving people from their lands, Palestinian-aligned forces practiced that as well in this conflict--when their side annexed Jordan and Jerusalem. By this definition you would be defending those who are genocidal as well.
If you mean genocide as in eradicating an ethnic or religious group, that's more Hamas' thing, as I have illustrated above.

Apartheid: you're ignoring all the Arab-Israeli citizens, who are not kept legally separated and have the same rights as every other citizen there. Their existence makes your accusation of apartheid not make sense. This is clearly about safety and not racial discrimination on the Israeli side.

Cool chat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Alright I was going to disengage but holy shit.

You're going to go against Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'Tselem, Nelson fucking Mandela, among plenty of others, saying it's an Apartheid? Come on, dude.