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My husband says yay, I say nay. What are your thoughts?

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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is that? I'm not vegan but it's something I'm considering. This is my first attempt to connect with a vegan community. Might be my last ๐Ÿ˜•

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because it wildly misunderstands the most very basic concepts of what veganism even is. Veganism has nothing to say about human breast milk or the ethical practices concerning it, just like it has nothing to say about bridge building, musical theory, or 1980s late night television.

Post like this are helpful to people who are not vegans and are trying to figure out the absolute basics so that they can even begin to have a conversation. They are not useful to vegans, and in fact they are quite aggravating to a lot of us. You are simply not equipped to "connect with a vegan community" until you have done your basic due dilligence.

[email protected] is here to cater to vegans, not people who are curious about vegans and want to interrogate them about things that they could much more easily discover from the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article. Differentiating communities is useful.

If you want to keep harming animals, then "vegans were mean to me" will sound like a reasonable justification to do that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

[email protected] is here to cater to vegans, not people who are curious about vegans and want to interrogate them about things that they could much more easily discover from the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article

Originally, this was this community's intent too. The rules in the sidebar are willingly shallow about this kind of posts because at some point we decided not to be too strict with submissions, considering that there wasn't that much activity and the mods were mostly afk . So posts like this are tolerated unless they become an omnis cicrclejerk/backpatting fest

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No disrespect. Like I said, differentiation is useful. There's always going to be a "big tent" community that has to straddle between mainstream culture's idea of veganism and actual veganism. And it's probably going to be bigger and more successful than a more curated community. I just want a place to go to escape my throbbing vystopia.