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I don't really see the point of this. It's just adding complexity for the sake of it. As far as I can tell when you change gear it just changes some software parameters, there are no physical gears. Yet there's a clutch and the ability to stall?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The biggest reasons ev bikes suck are: shitty range, weight, cost.

Bikes are small, batteries are heavy. The Harley live wire, for example, can do less than 100 miles on a charge. Second, but part of that first point, they're HEAVY. My bike weighs ~360lbs. An energica sport bike is in the high 500lbs range. Thirdly, they're obscenely expensive for worse performance, handling, weight, range. If someone could produce a 400lb bike with a ~200 mile range I might be interested.

I'm biased, but 99.99% of my riding is in the middle of nowhere in the mountains, there's no chargers out there and there won't be for decades.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've not seen an attempt to make a practical electric motorcycle. I've only ever seen attempts at superbikes. Give me an electric Ninja 250, something that can comfortably handle a couple hours of highway driving so you could handle a commute from one small town to another small town and I think it would be an actual product.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of practical e-motobikes, they're just made for people in normal countries where you don't need to ride for more than 10-20km.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kawasaki recently launched some entry level electric Ninjas, but they're complete garbage for the price. $8000 for a bike with 10hp, 55mph top speed, and 55 miles of range. That should've been $4000 or less.

Just get a $3500 Grom with the same power and speed but also the fun of a mini-bike or a $6000 Ninja 400 with 5x the power and still 55mpg.

Kawasaki also just announced a hybrid Ninja motorcycle that actually looks really intriguing, but we don't know the price yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wow yeah that is garbage.