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Buuut… how far is this from what he actually said? I’m sure it’s pretty close.
What did he say?
Ok, fine, after a quick look at news, these are the two main things said.
In regard to the 7000+ dead reported by the hamas run health department:
Also:
He's still calling it a war, I see. What an odd way to describe the indiscriminate bombing of innocent men women and children.
One side has officially declared war so fair enough in my opinion.
Hamas isnt really what I'd consider a military force capable of modern warfare, pretty guerrilla and terrorist style. Israel however has declared war against everything above-ground and turned it to rubble.
Well, I don’t really believe anyone’s numbers. BOTH sides of the Gazrael coin are fundi assholes, and will say anything to get international support (good luck).
As far as waging war. I mean, I know it’s a lot more complicated than “religion” but it’s basically a religious war… and I just have no sympathy for that. People die when you fight. Don’t fucking fight.
Is how I read this statement. I am pretty certain he hasn't taken this stance on Ukrainian innocents being killed...
Ukraine isn't the one who wagered for war. Biden is saying this is the price of instigating the fight, ignoring the very complicated and nuanced history. I don't agree with him at all but he'ssaying Palestinians punched first and that's what they get, which yeah doesn't apply to Ukraine at all.
Palestine wasn't the one who wagered for war. It was Hamas. Unless Hamas is now Palestine, and nobody told me?
So...Yea. Awkward.
Do I look like Biden lol, go argue with him. He's the one who says Hamas and Palestine are the same. I also am not aware if he told you or not.
I'm not arguing my dude. It's called responding ;)
I see what I see from his comments, which is ; Innocent Muslim/brown people being killed is the price of war meanwhile innocent Ukrainian/white people being killed is a tragedy and international war crime that must be answered for.
I really don't expect anything else from a US president on this issue. This is coming from a white westerner, as well. I just hate the hypocrisy of it all.
Youre still mixing apples and oranges. Ukraine is a war everybody can understand at a glance and get behind. Biden aside, the history behind what is going on is very complicated, and people have different opinions. Bidens opinion shouldn't shock you, he's saying what US generals want him to say.
It doesn't mean it's hypocritical to support Ukraine. They are very very different conflicts despite both of them being unfair and unbalanced.
Hamas is the government of Gaza, so yes.
People keep saying that but how true is it, really? They seem only slightly more like a legitimate government than the Taliban.
They were originally elected democratically, so they definitely have some support and legitimacy.
And, much like the Taliban, they are definitely the ones in charge, legitimate or not.
Fine, let's say they're about as legitimate as Putin then. Would that make it justified for Ukraine to commit war crimes against Russian civilians?
Didn't say it was.
I dont care. Trump was bad, but Biden is also bad.
I voted for Biden because I got swept up in "lesser evil" rhetoric.
I wish I didn't cast a vote, and next time I won't.
It simply does not matter.
The Party is going to do what what The Party does.
Thanks for helping end democracy, women's rights, LGBT+ rights, etc. in the US.
The fascism that is consuming both sides of The Party is already doing that.
I am simply choosing not to be part of it.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Hint: if you post taxes, you're part of it.
When a candidate worth voting for presents themselves, I will vote for them.
Bernie, AOC, and Katie Porter aren't going to be on the presidential ballot, so I won't be casting a presidential vote.