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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I disagree whole heartedly. Criminalizing things like using drugs during pregnancy leads to criminalizing miscarriages for natural reasons which has absolutely happened. There's not a ton of cases, but women have gone to jail for having a miscarriage after saying they wanted an abortion based on the idea that they must have killed their fetus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I don't care about prosecuting or criminalising in this case. There is already precedent for rehabilitation both voluntary, and in the case where a person's safety is at risk, involuntary.

I don't see why this could not be expanded to include the safety of an unborn child.

Noting specifically that I am talking about drug abuse where a woman intends to carry to term, not about locking women up to force them to give birth. I hate that I even have to clarify, but if experience had taught me anything, people on social media get positively orgasmic when they find something they can willfully misinterpret.

[–] jasory 1 points 11 months ago

Do you have a source that the only evidence was them saying they wanted an abortion? This is protected speech in the US as far as I know so getting a conviction would be nearly impossible.

You are probably confusing a recent case where two co-conspirators were involved in inducing an illegal abortion, and they committed (and admitted to) other crimes adjacent to that. They had far more evidence than just "someone said they wanted an abortion".

Now if you were logically consistent you would also oppose the criminalization of homicide, because it too can be prosecuted on weak evidence.

In fact you would have to accept many other absurd consequences, but you don't because this is just a logical error that you carve out to justify an opinion you fancy.