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"Private Internet Access has verified in court multiple times that we keep no logs."
If they've gone to court on multiple occasions and proven they keep no logs, that's pretty compelling evidence that they're telling the truth. I guess you could never be 100% sure though.
Was that before or after they got bought out?
Before I'm pretty sure. They used to be common recommendations for this reason.
Torguard has also proven no logs in court, and I believe they also have never been acquired.
Some companies like Mullvad have no way to even keep logs
How do you know that?
No way to be 100% sure, but they were raided by police recently and supposedly walked away with nothing. Verge article
SomeOrdinaryGamers had a video on it also.
There are other VPN providers that offer similar stuff to mullvad, I can keep going for days.
TL;DR They do not ask you for any info that would deanonymize you & support FOSS projects
They do not ask for information that would deanonymize you would be a better way of putting that
I just shared a link where they answer those questions in much more detail that I can do via Lemmy commet replies. If you have specific questions please share them, if someone wants to help you out they will reply, otherwise just read the article and try different VPN providers out yoruself.
edit: formatting replies edit2: Because you edited your reply you should NEVER trust any company with your personal information. You should just NOT give it to them, I do not trust Mullvad or any other "privacy" related company to store data that would deanonymize me, you are proving my point that you do not read what I'm typing or the article I've shared.
I think that no amount of verification or technical details would satisfy you, because you could simply turn around and say, "well that might have been the case on the day is was verified, but what about the day after?" or "why should we trust the independent auditor?" In other words, you are just trolling. If you are the one claiming they are not trustworthy, despite them having an almost flawless reputation, then the onus is on you to provide evidence to back up your claims, not the other way around.
You should have "How do I know if they are not keeping logs of my IP address connections"
Your IP address does not always relate to you, either because you are using a public wifi(that you can bypass the payment portal thanks to mullvad btw) or on top of tor etc.
Your ISP is also a company, and as I said above you should not share your private information with them if possible and legal in your country.
They also claim:
Which I have to guess is true for all the police raids they had that left the police with 0 evidence.
Ask specific questions, and be nice to others. You won't learn much here otherwise, and if you know everything, why even post?
I do not advocate for mullvad, there are many other companies that are valid choices. That's why I posted this to learn what others use or maybe some that are not even listed by torrentfreaks not to argue about the no-log policy of Mullvad.