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Cities Skylines 2 PC performance is below target and modding tools will be basic at launch, Paradox says (www.pcgamesn.com)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of games nowadays require stupidly long shader building already. Then you might even have to go through 5 hotfixes before the games run adequately, each one of course also requiring their own redoing of the shaders. By the time you actually got the game running and in a playable state you’re typically well past the 2 hours. And games that straight up don’t run properly, despite tinkering and a lot of work, are then still denied with idiotic automated messages, because no real person actually reads your pleas and explanations what you’ve spent your time “playing” actually with.

sure, if believing that that's what happened helps you cope, please go ahead.

Get that head out of corporates asshole and then we can maybe talk again.

I literally said "don't buy the dlc if you don't want to" how tf is that being stuck in a corporate asshole?

And Paradox doesn’t go below I think it was like 50% discount for their shit anyway, so if you wait for a good deal, you’ll wait practically forever. Meanwhile, the next game is already coming out while you try to scrape together the content for the previous one

Well first of all, you're wrong. Paradox does discounts up to 80% but those are mostly on the base games. And looking past that if you can't "scrape together" 100€, or even 200€ if we're being really generous to your idiotic claims, in 8 years I don't think the price of the game is the problem.

Listen buddy, if you're this angry I think you should just go read a book. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, if you think the price is too high then don't buy it. That simple.

Although after reading the entire thing I think I know what's going on. Going by you complaining about the prices a lot and for some reason needing to manually apply hotfixes to games (I don't need to do that on linux ffs) I have a guess what's going on. Stop playing games on Windows 95 hardware

[+] [email protected] -7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

sure, if believing that that’s what happened helps you cope, please go ahead.

lmao
I believe it because that's literally what happened already. So the one coping here is apparently you as the little corporate shill trying to shun me for voicing my completely valid complaint, for "reasons".

I literally said “don’t buy the dlc if you don’t want to” how tf is that being stuck in a corporate asshole?

"afford to"
Remember when you were able to buy complete games? But please, make even more excuses while the gaming market goes even more to shit.

Well first of all, you’re wrong. Paradox does discounts up to 80% but those are mostly on the base games. And looking past that if you can’t “scrape together” 100€, or even 200€ if we’re being really generous to your idiotic claims, in 8 years I don’t think the price of the game is the problem.

Yeah, at this stage you're just making shit up. I already proven that their major expansions don't go past the 50% mark. And yes, welcome to the world of poor people. If you think I can constantly shell out hundreds of bucks for games then you need a fucking reality check. That's literally weeks of groceries for me, literal survival.

Listen buddy, if you’re this angry I think you should just go read a book. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, if you think the price is too high then don’t buy it. That simple.

Although after reading the entire thing I think I know what’s going on. Going by you complaining about the prices a lot and for some reason needing to manually apply hotfixes to games (I don’t need to do that on linux ffs) I have a guess what’s going on. Stop playing games on Windows 95 hardware

And the mental gymnastics & thin veiled insults continue. Maybe go and troll somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Remember when you were able to buy complete games?

Remember when games were so complex you could run them on a calculator? Remember when "Free Content Update" didn't exist? When "Hotfix" was a bunch of patched files of questionable origin distributed on forums? Times change, development costs change. Are most gaming companies nickel and diming the customer? Absolutely. Does Paradox' DLC policy encourage their devs to salami slice deliver content? Also absolutely. Was Cities Skylines negatively impacted by that? Looking at how they sliced up the DLC so you could pick and choose, as well as the workshop being a thing: No, I don't think Cities Skylines was negatively impacted by it. The cosmetics DLCs were thematically self contained. The radio stations were for people willing to spend extra for little in return (sort of a donation). The major expansion were self contained in the feature sets, you don't need to buy any additional DLC to fully enjoy an expansion. Don't think you'll like the Campus DLC? No problem, you are losing nothing by not buying a game addition you don't like. Yes "addition". The base game was good when it released. The only problem with it today is that we know the DLC exists. The reference frames back then were: SimCity 2013 and SimCity 4 and Cities Skylines landed in between the two: Vastly Better Gameplay than SC2013 but worse than SC4. Vastly better graphics than SC4 but only on-par/worse (depending on who you ask) to SC2013. The game back then wasn't "incomplete". Nor do I expect this one to be. From what I can tell via Preview footage from the YouTubers it's a complete, self contained, product. There will be DLC but from the feeling I have right now, not because they intentionally made a core gameplay loop worse with the main goal of making it DLC content.

I already proven that their major expansions don’t go past the 50% mark

where? cuz last comment chain I checked you were full of bullshit with that claim. Although I'm sure you'll make up another one to "be in the right"

constantly

8 years

uhuh

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

I'll think of the likes of you when the gaming industry finally implodes.