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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What are the last two? I know Python and C, but haven't seen the last two.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The third one is rust which has become a meme at this point. Programmers like it because it has almost as much performance as C but has a lot of safeguards preventing memory errors and vulnerabilities. I have no idea what the last one is tho

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did rust change it's logo? I thought it was a gear. :s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It did not change logo. This is the mascot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it just has two logos but idk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The crab is public domain, so you can use it to advertise your own Rust project or whatever. The gear logo belongs to the Rust foundation, which sparked some controversy a while ago.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crab is Rust, but the last one...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Apparently it's called nim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(programming_language)

Looking at the Wikipedia article, it seems like it has some weird syntax choices. And even though it compiles to C code, I'm not convinced that it's as fast as C or Rust, since it has a garbage collector.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty skeptical it could be as fast and safe as Rust without the added challenge. Like, even doing what Rust did was a big deal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I could be wrong, but based on the Wikipedia article it seems like it’s more trying to be a python replacement than a rust/c++/Java/etc replacement. The big thing with rust is that it’s rules allow memory safety without a garbage collector, while unless I missed something it seems like nim just uses a garbage collector. Not that that’s necessarily some huge problem or anything, but you know, different purposes

[–] potatoBoy 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can compile to C which then compiles using your favourite compiler. So it can operate at the speed of C

And the new memory management system is similar to rusts system (and can be fully disabled if you want manual memory management)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can compile to C which then compiles using your favourite compiler. So it can operate at the speed of C

Technically, it all compiles to assembly, but Python is still a lot slower than C or Rust. Speed is lost along the way through those layers of abstraction.

And the new memory management system is similar to rusts system (and can be fully disabled if you want manual memory management)

So it doesn't have a garbage collector? I'm going to have to actually look into this myself.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I think it transpiles to C so theoretically it could be quite fast, but I doubt the generated C is as fast as manually written C or Rust.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

OH… NIM NIM NIM NIM NIM FUCKING NIM