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I'm glad we can agree that hamas are terrorists and not an actual military at least
What definition of "terrorist" are we using here by which Israel isn't 100x more terrorist?
The one where specifically civilians are targets. The one that that uses hospitals and elementary schools and civilian apartments as rocket launch sites. The one that explicitly calls for the complete destruction of the other state in its charter. Need I go on?
Ahh, so Israel then. I thought you meant Hamas.
Hmmm that's very highly specific of a definition, and still happens to be Israel.
Ok well I guess this one is Hamas alright. Not really terrorism to seek the downfall of an apartheid state.
Oh so all those people at the peace rally were not civilians. Cool. I'd also love to know which elementary schools and hospitals Israel is using as a base to launch rockets into ... anywhere really. At least now others will see how deluded you are and know not to take anything you say at face value.
Yeah not all of them. This was a rave dance held at the gates of a concentration camp, with many armed personnel and tanks in sight, and minutes from the Gaza division Re'im base.
There are plenty of examples. Tel Aviv has dozens of military bases near dense residential areas and even hospitals. This is very easily verifiable on Google maps, and articles have been written on this. Here's an example:
Hospital: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CyAaK7u78fNQJNt17
Military bases: https://maps.app.goo.gl/LKF8rFcrEC7cqQzA8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/eETyujgrr7bjjL629 https://maps.app.goo.gl/TMVvK6SZ4wn4NNui9
Israel can very easily afford not to do this. Gaza is the 2nd - 3rd most densely populated area in the world, only 12 km in width. It is a concentration camp.
Having security at an event doesn't make it not be a primarily civilian target. It's especially ironic that hamas targeted a peace festival that was sympathetic to their cause. I imagine it's because they don't want peace
These are not hospitals and elementary schools from which rockets are being launched. They are based near a hospital which eminently sensible for any military that values its soldiers.
Auschwitz, a famously prolific and reasonably large camp was less than half a kilometer in width. Please don't cheapen the experience of those rounded up at gunpoint and forced into cattlecars by comparing it to that of people who moved into an area whose inhabitants were forcefully evacuated (Israel forced its own citizens out at gunpoint in 2005. If hamas had any interest in Israel continuing to give them the land they wouldn't use the land given to them to pull this kind of crap)