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This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.
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Would you blame some Ukrainians for wanting all Russians dead?
What if Russia kept this up for 50 years? What if they cut off power and water to Ukraine? What if they blockaded it for decades? Would you blame them for voting for a party that wants the Russians dead? Do you blame Afghan citizens for supporting the Taliban after a decade of American occupation?
Good luck finding anyone who thinks Hamas' actions are good, but they are entirely predictable. Hamas is the only outcome that could ever happen with the environment Israel created and maintains to this day.
If riots are the voice of the unheard, terrorists are the voice of those unheard after decades of oppression and occupation.
I mean that's a fucked up starting point tbh, so yeah, I would.
Ukraine has made it clear they'll stop at their border. Hamas have made it clear they will not. They're an existential threat to Israel.
edit: we're all looking in thinking an equitable two state solution is the answer but Hamas have made it clear that's not an option for them. How do you discuss anything with someone whose stated goal is to eradicate you?
At least in Northern Ireland the goal was to leave Britain alone after a united Ireland had been achieved.
You really wouldn't understand why some Ukrainians would support a party that calls for the death of all Russians? You really can't see why Afghans supported the Taliban during the American occupation? I'm not asking if it's right for them to do so, or if it's right for people to support those that do, in asking if you can understand why they'd feel that way.
What are your thoughts about the Haitian slave revolt?
Hamas' stated goal is a product of Israeli actions. Terrorist groups calling for the destruction of another country don't tend to form in stable, prosperous, and free countries.
Not to mention that Israel has been actively stealing Palestinian land for decades and recently argued to the UN that all of Palestine was a part of Israel. They aren't exactly respecting the border either. They are also seen as an existential threat to the Palestinians.
Israel doesn't see a two state solution as an option either. They either want full control over Palestine or a puppet state that they have almost total control over. No real Arab state would be allowed by them and they've made that clear.
Nothing good will happen until tensions deescalate, which can't happen until Israel backs down from their occupation and oppression. You won't stop making new terrorists until they are treated as people.