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A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who's trying to stamp out vaping entirely? All I'm reading into this article is just "Kids shouldn't start vaping, especially if they have asthma."

The suggested solutions I've seen in the news recently are things like keep the vaping displays away from kids, stop kid-friendly flavours, and make packaging less enticing - all things that they currently do for cigarettes, and all perfectly reasonable IMO.

No-one I've seen is proposing taking them away from adults.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck this stop kid friendly flavor shit. I'm 40. I prefer sour flavors like apple/peach or red bull. I swear to fuck I will start smoking again to spite you paternalistic motherfuckers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christ, chill with the venom. Fair enough, you like those flavours, but there are ways to avoid marketing them as desirable to children.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I buy juice not disposables so it's not really marketed for kids, but congress, the FDA and the tobacco firms that seem to own both won't really discriminate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ahh, you're American - the UK system, which this article is referring to, will be different. There is talk of banning disposables for environmental reasons and ease of kids getting hold of them, but the government over here are currently looking into the best options.

The government certainly won't want to ban vapes entirely, as they help people quit smoking, so they take pressure off the health service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Sorry. Not sure I noticed I traipsed into the motherland.

For context, our television advertising ban happened because Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds stalemated on market share. Both had to pay for adverts because they'd lose share if they stopped, but if it's banned they can save millions and nobody else can easily edge into their market.

Flavored cigarette bans were similar. Upstarts started eating into their profits, so it became necessary to ban their products.

Recently our FDA has started clamping down on places that mix juice. You either have to pay for some sort of certification or just buy mass produced juice.

It's ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

"kid friendly flavors" tend to be literally everything except for "chemical tobacco flavor" and menthol. And sometimes they go after the menthol too. They're trying to kill the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Adults also like the “kid friendly” flavors. Restricting people to vape flavors that taste like ass isn’t going to help them stop smoking cigarettes that are more harmful to themselves and those around them