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The evidence is quite clearly found in the Jewish population of the surrounding countries....oh wait, they've been ethnically cleansed.
Which is exactly what Hamas is saying they intend on doing.
Considering the history of the region, the numerous recorded events attempting to remove Jews from the region, it's very obvious to all but the most bigoted why that country is critical to their survival.
It's also why they'll demolish the threats to their survival. They've lived thru not having a homeland and they will not let that happen again, regardless of the social media zeitgeist or the cheers of terrorism supporters.
Israel's policy of expanding settlements in West Bank and elsewhere was the primary cause of this.
By making peaceful solutions impossible- by denying the Palestinians any space for life- Israel has left only terrorism and desperation
Hamas and the Israeli right share responsibility for every death.
Fascinating how you're claiming Israel has made it impossible when Hamas is the one who not only refuses to negotiate, but openly calls for the murder of an entire group of people.
The specific reason is because successive right-wing Israeli governments have empowered Hamas, while expanding settlements in the West Bank.
By those policies, Israel has accomplished two things. A) increasing radicalization, and B), dis-empowering non militant. It's not as if a rival group to Hamas even could operate in Gaza, and Israel has allowed that situation to come about through its material policies.
It's "fascinating" to you because you clearly don't understand that context. Which is, I'll note, broadly acknowledged by Israeli sources including a former PM (Ehud)
I disagree.
Saying that anyone who doesn't see things the way you do is a bigot, is not the way to convince people you're right. On the contrary, it makes it clear that you've got nothing to offer.
No, the fact you hold two different groups to two clearly different standards in the same situation is what proves you to be the bigot you are.
I've only referred to one group in this thread. I've no idea what makes you think I have different standards for different groups. Perhaps you're confusing me with another poster?