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I'm committed to ActivityPub. I don't really care if the specific server backend ends up being lemmy, kbin, or something new.
Eh. I was on Mastodon for a few days then left. Turns out I don't care to follow specific people. So it's a bit more than the protocol I will chase. The type of interaction also matters a lot.
Well yea, that’s not a knock against Mast, that’s a preference for a type of social media. Mast is the Twitter equivalent; if you don’t like Mast, you would t like Twitter (or vice versa as it were).
I think the point of Twitter is to follow famous people. Since there are very few famous people on Mastodon it makes it less useful. They need celebrities and media platforms to make the switch. That's not really a problem for a link aggregator like Lemmy. I think this site has a bright future.
Lots of people will hate me for this take but the best part of Twitter was its recommendation algorithm specifically between 2018-2021ish. The ability for everyone to meme about the same thing in the span of a few hours was fantastic and hilarious. I generally didn't give a shit about following famous people and have only been on Twitter for the meme culture.
Nowadays the algorithm is TERRIBLE though. I personally can't see myself moving to mastodon because I don't care about individual people though.
Mostly I used Twitter to follow specific journalists and a few famous people. Mostly sports stuff. There isn't much sports media on Mastodon unfortunately.
Well, not entirely true. I like twitter but I haven't found the same variety of "culture" in mastodon yet. And I'm not talking about trolls or racists or whatever else twitter is known for. I follow nearly 1000 people on twitter— and few of them are "famous"—mostly because I like their art or humor or insights. Let me make it clear that I don't have a problem with mastodon subculture; i followed many of these people as well before they moved platforms. But it's very insular and I want to see a greater variety of posts. People posting on mastodon seem to exclusively form part of the very specific intersection in a venn diagram composed of lgbt, neurodivergent, and political activist, who fled twitter in search of a safe space at any cost (and I don't blame them). So I find myself still opening twitter because there's lots of gaps in my feed ranging from normie posts, memes, cynical satire, people I disagree with (yes, I wanna see those, too), lots of artists, and many figureheads from communities I'm interested on like anime and games. I feared lemmy/kbin would have a similar fate but I guess our migration happened for different reasons and I don't feel the need to open reddit at all now because I can find/build qualitatively analogous communities here. It doesn't depend on specific people as long as someone keeps the place alive.
I have almost exclusively followed artists on Twitter (still do), but I have not logged in once ever since Musk took over. It's unfortunate that so few artists have a Mastodon account. I mean, it does make sense, since they are looking for an audience, so I don't blame them. I just won't be part of their audience then. A lot of people seem worried about what that new Instagram App which uses Activitypub is gonna change for Mastodon. But I am ecstatic! For me it means tons of artists I can follow right from my Mastodon account. After Twitter, Instagram is probably the second biggest platform for artists to find an audience.
This.
Why ActivityPub specifically?
For clarity, I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand.
It’s a widely accepted standard for decentralised social media. It can be adapted to many use cases relatively easily. If someone makes a better link aggregator server based on ActivityPub, it would be much easier to bring all the lemmy data and users to it than if someone started from scratch. As in what happened going from Reddit to lemmy, as Reddit doesn’t have a standardised federation behavior.
Thanks for expanding on that!
Not OP but probably because it let's us all communicate with each other. I can watch und discuss stuff from Kbin and even had a couple of Mastodon users commenting in one of my threads. It doesn't look you on a platform, everything is more or less cross platform.
i did a lookup for ActivityPub, found an article and an image. thanks!
It seems like lemmy picked up the bulk of the refugees so far. Shifting again would be risky at this point, it just serves to dilute the numbers again. Some stay, some go etc.
I firmly believe this is only the beginning here. Reddit is probably fine to lurk so long as old.red*it.com remains, but it has become a pretty hostile place for people who participate.
My prediction is that reddit will just end up hosting content posted by bots and commented on by different bots and nobody will have any idea that there's so few real users left. This will become the home for actual discussion between humans.
As a matter of fact: I'm already eyeing to move to Kbin as soon as I can manage to install it on my server. If something even better comes up and it also works with ActivityPub, then back to moving ships it is for me