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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have to admit this thread and post are very informative. I have never questioned it, right on red has just always been something I could do since I got my driver’s license. Didn’t realize it was so controversial! TIL after ~20 years lol

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn’t realize it was so controversial!

If by controversial you mean dangerous, then yes, it is. It is one of the main ways in which pedestrians are killed in North America. In most developed countries it is illegal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Those last two sentences, replace pedestrians with hot topic victims and this could be any thread.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's problematic at best, dangerously stupid at worst.

  • It introduces a conflict point between traffic coming from the left heading straight and traffic intending to turn right.
  • The driver that wants to turn right has to look very far to the left and to the right.
  • The driver that wants to turn right has to determine if they have the right of way.

In most European countries (maybe all), right-turning lanes often have an additional signal that allows cars to turn right even if the main signal is red. It serves the same purpose as right-on-red, but eliminates the issues I've listed because it's green only when traffic from the left is stopped.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Makes sense. I’m never against more rules governing cars, personally. Sounds like right on red is a bit too much discretion for drivers.