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Bob* was riding across the Kurilpa Bridge into the city on a quiet school holiday Friday morning, also coincidentally World Car-Free Day, when ... BAM, he was $464 poorer.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

but the sign they have used is a regulatory sign

Sort of. As someone astutely pointed out on Facebook:

the signs don’t look like they comply with MUTCD regarding their layout, positioning, dimension’s [sic] etc.

Which could be either an indication that they're intended to be advisory, or just a failure to really think things through.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Signs that have a "reasonable likeness" to standard signs are covered under s316: https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/sl-2009-0194#sec.316

Number in a red circle is likely enough for it to be considered official, but yeah I would like to see it challenged.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wonder if the fact that it's not on a sign by itself, but combined with a bunch of other things, which could mean it's unenforceable. It reminds me of (but is nowhere near as bad as) the signs on the way in to UQ:

There are clear standard signs on the way out saying 60, but the only sign on the way in is part of a bigger sign including details about smoking, hazardous chemicals, and parking restriction hours. I've lived minutes away from the sign for a decade now and have ridden & walked past it many times, and didn't even notice that sign existed until this year after someone made a comment about the speed limits online. The ones on Kurilpa and Goodwill are better than this, but they still mix the (advisory?) speed limit in with other stuff in a way that you could argue is confusing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow that sign is extra ridiculous. I think most people would struggle to read it standing right in front of it let alone driving past.

s316 does give a lot of leeway e.g.

(b) the sign has additional information on or with it; or

(e) the sign is combined on a single panel with 1 or more other traffic signs; or

The point where it becomes substantially different is pretty subjective, which IMO shouldn't be a thing when you're talking about road rules, but it's sadly not the only example.