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See you make it sound like its such a hard decisions. Rigorously define the death penalty? The fuck? You either meet the standard for execution or you don't, see the case of Chad Doerman (my standard for the death penalty).
Yes the prison system needs updating but im not talking about prisons.
Not asking for that perfect world im asking for a world where a person that commits the most serious of crimes, no longer enjoy their life.
And I'm saying that what you're wanting is a fairy tale and doesn't actually exist (or at the very least, costs a stupid amount of money and resources that could be much better used by doing literally anything else).
I don't think we're gonna get much further here, so respectfully, I'm going to move on.
Its not a fairy tale, what a fairy tale is you think you gonna get funding to stop people in prison from getting turned out. Not gonna happen.
People don't usually say "im done with this" but the ones that do are pretty pretentious. You think one thing, I think another, it conversion but your just being.. whats the word im looking for? Oh yeah, a dick.
Their is a dark disgusting part of human society that deserve to take dirt nap in my mind its a simple process for a case already litigated to the point that even a person in a coma could tell they did it with malicious intent.
You are looking to be a noble person with only the most noble ideals, "I am noble for not letting this killer be himself killed". How noble of you noble one.
To be frank, you're sounding more and more like a child (and spelling like one, I might add), and I'm losing any interest in continuing to speak with you. If you think every stranger on the internet is obligated to spend an unlimited amount of time on a conversation that's devolving into playground insults, I'm afraid that I simply do not care if someone who can't grasp the idea that the world is a bit more complicated than they imagine thinking that I'm a pretentious dick.
So with that, enjoy prattling on with someone who will listen to you and match your base level of maturity, because I am not one of them.
People normally just stop talking but you out her making announcements.
I think we should start executing all the people with your views on criminal justice. Your kind are diseased and I don't think you have a place in an ideal society.
That's obviously farcical to make a point, but do you see why people may not want to encourage the state monopoly on violence to so easily apply to whoever you want?
And my crime? A view point? When I'm talking about the worst of the worst. I think you need to really think about what you just said. Killing someone for expressing a view point? There is no place in society for a person such as yourself.
Im not asking the government to have carte blanche on killing people for things like stealing from the store or even someone who killed someone in the heat of passion. Im talking about the real cunts.
Stop being so ready to kill bro, calm your tits.
I believe, genuinely, that you're a killer waiting for a bad enough day, solely because of the views you express here. You do not seem to be an emotionally mature person who lives in the real world, and I would absolutely classify you as a threat to society. I mean this with all sincerity - society would be better off without you and those that think like you do.
This is sort of the inherent problem with the mindset you have - anyone can be classified as "the real cunts" because people don't work the way you think they do. I would never act on the above because it is wrong, but the more you empower a blind system the more likely the net of "real cunts" will broaden, which is what you seem to be missing.
'kill all the bad ones" becomes "wow there sure are a lot of bad ones" very quickly.
You make it so personal, using your logic, I could say the same as you. Your immediate though is that I'm a "killer in waiting"? Thats a pretty intense stance you are taking their for nothing more than a conversation. You do understand how society works right? People have conversations about topics and you are so strongly aposse to me that you are ready to make what I say seem, like worse? Think about that. Hmmm I think their is a larger issue at play here.
Whats up? I'm not being a dick I genuinely want to know why you use such strong words to outline your argument?
We could share the same ideals on other topics but this is what you think defines me?
I think you have other reasons to lash out. We disagree on this but im not calling you a killer for saying I should be killed for simply expressing a view point.
Breath mate, relax.
Yes this is a big part of why I am a near-abolitionist about prison and am utterly opposed to the death penalty.
I didn't lash out. Perhaps you're missing the meaning of "farcical?"
I have calmly reiterated to you, with repeated examples, that these lines are blurry and being too gung-ho about the death penalty gets innocent people killed and opens the door to ever-further expansion.
Yes, you lashed out dude. You labeled me a killer in waiting, seemed a little harsh. Im happy you have such strong feelings about it.
I am not asking for lines to be blured and I am apposed to innocent people executed or even falsely sentenced to prison, put there by courrpt individuals looking to close the case, get a promotion, etc.
The innocence project an institution i belive in but we shouldn't have to rely on it to catch a problem rather than fixing the courrption that leads to false convictions or executes based on flimsy evidence.
But in my mind, and call it toxic if you want but, I feel really strongly that a person like Chad Doerman the person that shot his 3 toddler aged kids on his front law while their mother lay over them to try save them and got wounded in the process he was calm and just showed absolutely no remorse he just end 3 kids live and is allowed to live, call me names for not wanting him or btk or green river or the golden state being alive.
You calmly did nothing, you just went straight into "kill mode" without even having a decent conversation. Its hard to gauge a person on the Internet but I just find people are super on edge, ready to hurt someone in a flurry of text. I don't hate you or anything, infact. I hope you have a nice day\night.
Fun fact, Doerman lived down the street from me.