this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2023
1771 points (99.2% liked)

Science Memes

10988 readers
2041 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The getting to keep your job bit is not quite right. Often, one also has to go find their own funding. Sort of based on the publications, but not necessarily.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the implication is the whole "publish or perish" mindset in academia.

If you don't constantly publish something then your career and work is considered stagnant. At which point you lose out to other researchers, and effectively can't get paid for your work. Aka: you lose your job

At least that's how I understand it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The academic system is a tiered system. Publish or perish is a term that mostly applies to early to mid career researchers, who are pracitcally all employed on fixed term contracts.You don't lose your job if you don't publish, you just can't get (or are less competitive for) your next job.

Tenured academics (professors/A. Prof.) are on ongoing employment by the university. Their job is never really under threat. Although if they wanted to move jobs and be successful in grants then they want a productive group (many publications) to prove they are leading cutting edge research.

Universities care directly around how much grant funding their professors can pull into the university. However, in many countries it's difficult to remove long serving academics. It's not uncommon for 'retired' proffs to die at their desk, even though they checked out decade's ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for explaining that