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[–] [email protected] 206 points 1 year ago (6 children)

He's already got a job, and you aren't going to get PTSD from spinning a sign. On top of that, you can quit any time you want if you want to do something else.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You clearly have never experienced the dark underbelly of the sign spinning subculture.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

theres a whole movie script idea. i hope chuck palahnuik writes it and trent reznor sounds it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It’s gonna be a Wes Anderson movie and it’s going to be about grapes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why do you want Trent Reznor to shove film/a book in his urethra?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Don't kink-shame me

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the military you are 4 times more likely to die from suicide than you are from being killed in combat.

The greatest threat to US military personnel is the US military.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Suicide also kills more Americans than murder within the USA

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The difference is we don’t try to recruit teenagers for murder. Well, the government doesn’t anyways, at least on paper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So the same US Military threat as about every other country, including the allies.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I read it as a 35k signing bonus.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or the "Ram 1500/Dodge Challenger bonus"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the 25% APR mustang special

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s the military discount only at “Support Our Troops” dealership.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Coming soon to a base “lemon lot” near you,

2022 Mustang 22k miles, driven hard, 1 owner, no oil changes 28000 obo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still a shit signing bonus. That must literally be the lowest signing bonus possible today. Pretty sure that my job (Navy Nuke) is still offering a sign up bonus of $200,000+

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Basically the entire air force hasn't offered an enlistment bonus for the past 15 years because they're so overmanned. The army just stopped offering reenlistment bonuses for the first time in god knows how long because even they're so overmanned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that because they lowered the standards for intelligence and fitness so that anyone can join now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Retainment has never been the issue. 90% of jobs in the military are basically office jobs to support the 10% who would actually see combat. And if you are part of that 90% you have a pretty cush life. Monthly tax free pay for food and housing, free health and dental, potential to live in Japan, England, Spain, Germany, Belgium, or pretty much anywhere else, 30 days of paid time off a year, gi bill for free college, the thousands of benefits vets get after they separate, a pension for life after 20 years for those who stay in, it's not hard to see why people stay once they're in. Where they are having a problem is that initial hurdle, getting people actually in the door. Which makes sense, a lot of young people, especially nowadays, are pretty anti establishment; there's also an obesity, drug, and mental health epidemic that disqualifies people from service, and there is always that looming threat that you could be sent out to die.

To answer your question, no, no meaningful standards have changed to allow more people in, besides allowing marijuana usage. Which was basically already allowed; you just needed to pinky swear to your recruiter you had never done it. If anything it's been made more difficult with new requirements for previous medical history.

Ultimately I'm glad I joined, the benefits far outweighed the negatives. It lifted me out of poverty to a job where I'm making 6 figures and got to see the world. Only you yourself can decide if joining is worth it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and you aren’t going to get PTSD from spinning a sign.

Unless you get hit by a car.

Still safer than the military though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Tell that to the Joker.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

You won't get PTSD from spinning a sign, but most of the sign spinners I've known have been homeless, and you will get PTSD from being homeless. The cops alone cause all cities and towns to be hostile to your very existance

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe the sign spinner is a veteran too.