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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A socialist system doesn't have to be state-based. Socialism can encompass anarchism, anarcho-communism and many other left ideologies besides state-communism.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just like the Soviets and CCP attempted to do before they learned how poor decentralized planning was without incentives. The CCP literally complained about how the Soviet Union wasn't following the true path of decentralized communes as their people starved. This is literally history. You can argue all you want about how what the Soviet Union and CCP became wasn't true anarchism but they literally tried it initially and it failed miserably.

Even Karl Marx said that his intent was more of a direction than blueprints because he didn't have it all figured out. He also said that allowing opposition parties couldn't be allowed within any socialist system which cements the concentration of power and eventually consultation.

All this is why the Western left turned to liberal reform approaches in the 50s.