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apricops: the tendency for racists and white supremacists to go gaga over their idea of ancient Rome is so darkly hilarious because of how entirely wrong it is. It's not a twisting of some kernels of truth, it's not a misinterpretation, it's just the exact opposite, and people in Western Europe has been doing it for so long. For centuries people in Britain and Germany would be like/have been like "ah yes, we are special and superior because we are the heirs of the superior Romans" while next to a giant pile of writings by respected Ancient Romans who went "god, Britain is a dump and Germany is full of idiot barbarians. I wish I lived somewhere cool and cultured like Syria or Tunisia."


occultbookstores: Someone wrote once that Fascism is Roman bimbofication and that's been living in my head rent-free.


Here's some homework for you: https://piped.video/watch?v=sEjCNzGOe3Q

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It goes back far further than that.

What historians called the Empire of the Greeks and later the Byzantine Empire , inhabitants called the Roman Empire or republic. Because it was, but western Europeans didn't want to admit that for numerous reasons.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... which Europeans and when? Because I studied Roman Law with a book written by a fascist, and it sure as hell had a TON of stuff about Iustinianus in there that you were supposed to learn, and that guy lived in full-on Istambul.

If anything I see the distinction between a "Roman" and a "Byzantine" empire more in English texts these days. It's not like the Brits and the American so-called "founding fathers" didn't have a massive hard-on for that era and the idealized common law take on their legal system.

I guess this counts as my "thinking of the Roman Empire" for the day. Time to reset that counter to 0 days.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are treading on very dangerous ground right now.

Because if I say "Now it's Istambul, not Constantinople" this thread is doomed.

Wait...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

People just liked it better that way

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago