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I don't use TikTok. Is that bad?
No. Just look at what friends share with a VPN up in-browser. You’ll get all the cultural context you’ll need lol
No matter what this 40 year old boomer ass Lemmy user base says, TikTok is amazing and some people are doing some really incredible things on it. You should give it a shot.
I'll skip on the China spyware. But thanks.
China can't really do anything to me personally, us is a much bigger threat.
But the crap going to Saudia Arabia is better? Or to private corps? They all do it, and they all need to be stopped.
What is China going to do to you?
You should be only worried about all the western spyware your balls are deep in.
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Nah I'd rather keep the influence on my country be as close to 1/3rd all around between the 3 big super powers.
I'd worry more about the US which directly controls the state I live in over the guys chilling 3000 miles away. Its really a false equivalence to compare the two.
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it is if one is far away and the US has active control over all western countries (I assume you live in a US bloc country), I'm going to be way more concerned with the one who can send a CIA agent to rule my death a suicide with two shots in my head.
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Politically to. I live in a US state. How are the Chinese going to use my transfem tiktoks against me. Are they going to sell me more estrogen? Hell yes if so lol.
Russia did little interference in the election. A study:
Recent government study:
https://therecord.media/russian-interference-had-no-meaningful-effect-on-2016-election-result-study-finds
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-35576-9#MOESM1 the study itself.
Trump also lost the popular vote anyway, it was the bullshit electoral system that allowed him to slither in. Although I'm not too surprised someone interfered with our elections, we do it to everyone else. Its common knowledge we interfered in the 1991 russian elections and directly manipulated and gave a fake result for their elections in 1993. We were able to directly change and influence their major political powers with their foreign interference, Russia has only managed to make bots annoying people on twitter.
and honestly why would china interfere in our elections, they can literally sit back and watch us fall apart. It is a pure fact that they are economically doing very well, and that we are in decline. Both our parties are anti-china, so who would they fudge in favor of? Stage a CPUSA coup?
Honestly I get how I might be coming off that way, but Im trying to be as neutral as possible. I have not said anything supporting russia or china in these posts, im just trying to introduce the point that the US social media spy apparatus is far more worrying than the Chinese one. I get it for like higher up people, but they have protections the common person does not. Monitoring us losers does nothing for them, just a lot of useless effort they don't have to do. We are already buying everything from them, they don't need to do anything for us to keep doing that.
I guess Im coming off as defending china, but I haven't even done that in this post. I've just said they are far less influential than my own government. The US is still the global hegemon, they didn't get there by being nice to people, they're not staying there because they're nice to people, and they will continue to stay there because they are willing to do whatever it takes to stay on top. The global hegemon, especially the USA's, is far more directly powerful in my own life than the other guys ever will.
another source for the russia stuff: https://mronline.org/2021/12/04/obituary-for-russiagate/
What's the reason though? If you don't want to "willingly serve up all your data" if it results in literally nothing, why?
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Western spyware we agree to willingly in agreements that openly state that your information will be collected.
The problem with TikTok was that they were found to collect more information than they explained in their user agreement.
Show proof. Stop pulling shit out of your ass because some Redditor said something.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/06/21/tiktok-confirms-data-china-bytedance-security-cfius/?sh=3add3fb32708
You can literally search "TikTok data"
They said Virginia and Singapore, then whoops, it's actually not
So they didn't "collect more information than they explained in their user agreement." You just made that up.
Still doesn't disprove her point, spyware is in all of our shit, how is the Chinese shit special?
Don't you feel your brain rotting and your attention span waning from all of the 15 second hits of dopamine being shoved into your face?
TikTok is not good for your mental well-being.
This. I use tiktok more than I like, and it's extremely easy to watch an hour or two. Thing is, when you get done, try to remember even like 3% of what you watched.
Tik tok has had 10min video for quite a while
If you're watching nothing but 15 second TikTok's, your algorithm is saying you're a fucking idiot. And I'd have to probably agree based off what you're saying here.
I don't use TikTok at all and never have. You are the fucking idiot who got hooked on a dopamine drip simulator.
So you literally have no idea what it is and what it's about, but here you are running your little mouth. Weren't you raised better than believing what you hear when you easily have the ability to see what it's about yourself? You don't sound too bright.
I know what TikTok is and what it is about. That's why I choose not to use it. You are bright enough to realize that clips from TikTok are posted in other places on the web, right? I've never used crack cocaine either, but I know what it is and what it is about.
TikTok is literally designed to psychologically manipulate teenagers and you fell for it. You sound mad about it, too. Hope it doesn't rot your brain too much before you figure it out, but that doesn't sound likely from your replies.
Eat tide pods and steal kias. Incredible things
Ya, because most of Lemmy userbase is from Reddit, the "American" website that bullied a kid into killing themselves, because they were "helping" find the boston bomber.
If that's what you get on your feed, I hate to break it to you... you might be a fucking idiot.
I don't use tiktok or any other shit social media like that. I had reddit for the communities and now this place for the same reason...which it's mainly memes at best. Using tiktok makes you a fucking idiot...
Cool ageism.
I used TikTok once. Three hours later I didn't realize that it was already midnight. Uninstalled immediately. Never again.