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This. Defed is not the magic weapon that will solve all your problems. Captcha and email filters should be on by default though.
Just to add to that, imagine people would start defeding email. Like WTF is that even? Defed should not even be an option.
There are literally globally maintained blacklists of spam email sources. When people lease a static IP address the first thing to do is to check it against the major email blacklists.
Use Facebook then. Or Reddit.
Again, go use Facebook or Reddit. They will suit your needs and wishes.
I'm not concerned about free speech. But please, leave Lemmy alone without your snowflake crap.
What rules? The only one here disliking rules of federation is YOU. Go back to Reddit, they will welcome you with open hands.
If you want defederation - go to Reddit.
Stop putting words into my mouth. Go back to Reddit, please. You will have as many chuckles there as you want. Together with likeminded echo-chamber.
You didn't ask the question, you're trying to move the goalposts. If you have no arguments left - stop arguing. Or go back to Reddit, as I have asked way too many times right now. This is a place for everyone, not just you.
Well, good luck to you then. As a sidenote - maybe try to learn where the rules are. Because you clearly have no clue.
You see, the problem is that you don't understand how federation works. This is not lemmy.world, this is lemmy.ml and here the rules are different.
Through this whole discussion you just showed yourself being ignorant on the topic of the discussion. Please refrain from sharing your opinions on topics you have no clue about in the future.
Did you even bother to read the sidebar and rules before you joined lemmy.world?
Lemmy.world doesn't allow for discrimination, racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. It doesn't even allow for name calling and requires posts with controversial topics to declare that it is a controversial topic.. In other words, most lemmy servers, especially the lemmy server you have chosen to join, have much stricter moderation rules than reddit, twitter, etc..
If you don't want "snowflake crap", you should probably join another instance, or host your own server where you make the rules.. And you are free to do so, but demanding that a server, which you don't own and have no control over, panders to your specific wishes seems a bit entitled..
One could even say that your attitude seems a bit "snow-flaky"..
It happens to email ALL THE TIME, we just call it something different when it happens to email. Evaluating email for SPAM potential is an every-day common place occurrence, and for at least the past 10 years, a factor called 'domain reputation' is part of the equation. Entire domains get spam blacklisted because they refuse to enforce rules for their users. The end result is that some domains completely refuse to accept mail from some other domains.
Blacklisting an entire domain can and does happen daily. It just doesn't have the same triggering ring as the word "defederation" has.
It happens because spam is illegal in many countries.