this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
551 points (98.6% liked)

Selfhosted

39435 readers
4 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Don't go for a Pi. They don't run stock Linux anyway.

I would get a board from pine64. There are also plenty of other options that are cheaper

Used mini PCs are also an option

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess he means that raspberry pi doesn't run a mainline kernel

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Precisely. You can't just boot up any arm image

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is true with ARM in general. There's no "standard Linux" to boot because every board needs its own device tree and set of core kernel modules for detecting important things like local storage. It's fairly intractable due to how different the hardware is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard this argumane before but that doesn't change the fact that some socs work out of the box and require no proprietary software or custom configs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah for the majority of standardized hardware solutions sure. But the Pi is an one-off, as well as all the other single board computers. IANALOSD.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wow, I was sure Raspberry Pi were pretty good about mainline support, especially since multiple distros support the platform.
Software support is still very good compared to pretty much every other arm board.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They can, just need correct drivers. We have mainline Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu for them now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Currently, and I could be wrong, the alternative to a Pi 4 from Pine64 now would be a Pine64's Quartz64 Model B. A Star64 might be interesting, but that's RISC-V so who knows what OS you could boot on it currently and if it would even be stable.

Plus with the Quartz64 Model B, who knows if you'll able to get a good case for it. There's the $28 “Model B” ALUMINUM WATERPROOF ENCLOSURE, but, eh, no thanks. There's the open enclosure, but that's also a no for me. I want a case I can hide the device itself, the cables, put a heatsink and fan on, be able to use an SSD with USB connect and connect a power supply all stuffed in a case. Which you can find plenty of for Raspberry Pi's.

Not to mention the Pi 5 isn't even out yet, and it's entirely possible it'll be better than the Quartz64 Model B, on top of having a ton of accessories. Plus, I can Pi up practically any Pi at the Microcenter or similar store near me as opposed to having to pay for good shipping.

I'm totally for having alternatives to the Pi, heck I might pick up a Quartz64 Model B if I can find a case, but a lot of alternatives don't have the same support and accessories the Pis do.