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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shell's currently trading at 60 bucks; that's not much of a COI.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

But what about when the share price reaches $6 1? Then you've made a whole dollar. Who knows? You could make $2.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not a conflict of interest to report on something you have a financial stake in? Just because the stock is at $60 doesn't mean you wouldn't profit if it went to $80.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a small amount of money is easily explainable in the journalistic report. In fact, I did so right now. "In order to gain access to this event and be allowed the provelidge to ask follow up questions, this reporter was forced to buy one stock of Shell at $60 a share. I did my best to not let this influence my journalism in any way."

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's proper that a journalist should put a disclaimer in their article, stating the conflict of interest. That does not mean the conflict of interest is suddenly done away with - it's still there.

Having a conflict of interest also doesn't mean the person cannot be trusted. However buying shares in the company you're reporting on would be introducing a significant doubt that isn't really worth the minimal benefits they'd get from attending shareholder meetings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guy buying one share of a company to gain access to a stockholder only event is not a conflict of interest. Think about it critically for any length of time and you'll realize this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mate, it's called a conflict of interest. By owning a share in the company, you have an interest in the company's success, and therefore an inherent bias in any reporting you do. You might not act on that bias, but it's still there - and most importantly for journalists it's perceptible to any and every reader.

I'm sure most journalists would not let it influence them. However the issue is it affects the quality of their writing towards their audience. It's not about whether or not they will act on their bias, but their appearance of bias.

Ultimately, it's just not worth the hassle. Otherwise we would already have journalists doing this - just because Shell are no longer letting journalists into shareholder meetings doesn't mean it's a new thing.

You're not arguing against me thinking this isn't a good idea, you're arguing against the entire journalism industry thinking that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not a conflict of interest if you buy a share as part of the investigation, literally I have no clue how to tell you this in any other way. If you need to own a share to ask questions, it is only proper to buy a share and ask the questions. You are the reason journalism is dying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The reason you buy it does not matter. Owning a share in a business you're reporting on is a de facto conflict of interest. You merely saying it isn't does not make your statement true. Coming up with excuses for why it was bought doesn't either. A good journalist will at least still declare their conflicts of interest, but that declaration does not dispell it.

You are the reason journalism is dying.

You are being an ass.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, at $60 it’s not a conflict of interest. $60 is negligible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Unless their stock price drops to $0 or doubles it is not even $60 but just a small fraction of that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not if it's 60 bucks and was specifically bought to be able to participate and report, come on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh please.. pennies… less than pennies in this context.