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Perfect examples of why OSX is an Unix-like just like GNU/Linux. It's got a shared history with the original Unix, but isn't literally Unix. This community is around Unix-likes, and under the Unix-like banner, I'd gladly welcome ReactOS. WSL isn't in the spirit of it though.
OSX has been on a number of occasions actively hostile towards FLOSS as well (particularly anything GPL), which in the last decades, have become synonymous with Unix-likes, though that's a matter of personal taste. What isn't a matter of taste however, is that OSX uses the XNU kernel, which is an acronym for X is Not Unix. It is not a monolithic Unix style kernel either. I would argue that OSX is only loosely Unix-like, and only mimics Unix functions for compatibility. Should Apple have the inclination, they would happily abandon it for something invented by them given the opportunity.
Not picking a fight with you over semantics, I just loathe Apple as a business and Microsoft gets a lot of flack for their old "Embrace Extend Extinguish" policies when Apple has been exceptionally hostile towards OSS. Apple so often gets a pass when being considered a part of Unix communities yet they absolutely do not embrace the spirit of Unix-likes and FLOSS at all.
Hostile towards OSS makes them more like commercial UNIX imo.
It's a nit to be sure. Microsoft's insistence on PowerShell nowhere and never is beyond mystifying. Apple at least wraps it's XNU in "standard" libs + shells. WSL is a pile of flaming trash, a footnote to an afterthought.
With MacOS, Terminal is x-term'ish, shell is
zsh
, andls
isls
OOTB. It's easy to see why people get confused.With Windows, there is no terminal, Powershell is an alien quagmire, and
ls
isGet-ChildItem
. It's easy to see why people get confused :)Wsl is the bare minimum to make me feel less uncomfortable on windows, even if it's just for file operations and to ssh into a real computer.
Lol - it is more tolerable, isn't it. Still, whenever I hear that, I always think of - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biHJ6S91xBY (work safe)
Keep in mind Dave Cutler, the guy who designed NT, hates Unix and thinks its design is a dumpster fire. No surprise that any Unix stuff in windows is very much an after thought and bolted on.