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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think this is USA only. Maybe mention that in the title. They don't sell half of those cars here.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish. More shitty American pickups in the Netherlands each year, further encouraged by a tax loophole.

I hope the gas prices bleed these fuckers dry…

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s the same in Australia. Tax incentives given to businesses during the pandemic mixed with a large influx of yank tanks available on the market means that there are heaps of these monster trucks getting around. I honestly don’t know how they cope, the roads and parking around here aren’t designed for such large vehicles and this is out in the countryside; I can’t see them fitting in narrow city streets.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yank tanks

I love it. I'd use it here in the U.S. but no one calls each other Yanks internally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna start using it regardless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we need something else. What about Patriot Panzers?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Haha, that's also a good one!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yank here. I use canyonero or monster truck depending on the type of vehicle.

I bet some people here would drive literal tanks if they could.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I’ve seen Trucks more often in Sweden as well as other SUVs. The most common car used to be a station wagon of some sort but it seems to be more compact suvs now too

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We just had a laugh about this this week at work - it's just such a ridiculous size compared to European cars.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even our cars are getting noticeably bigger. It's a stark difference if you see old refurbished cars from the 80s compared to their contemporary counterparts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But in part that's because modern cars are so much safer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Safer for those driving, less safe for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's just false when a fucking smartcar can pass NTSB crash test ratings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFvQppaAdc

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ireland and the UK are headed this way, if not there already.

The pickups make everyone look like posers but the SUVs are decent enough. I drove a couple, I wouldn't say there is more space but seeing them on the road so often makes me consider it the safer option for a family car. I don't want to going under one of them in a crash. That said I only think that this is how their popularity explodes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly it. They are actually less safe, but feel more safe, since you sit higher up. They also make smaller cars seem less safe, so it ends up being an arms race.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, I think we should tax cars based on their engine size/ weight to volume ratio. Disincentivise this shite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno about Ireland. I live there and I don't really see people drive that many SUVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The number one selling car in Ireland has been the Tucson for the last number of years.

It used to be mondeos, S90s, corollas now it's Kugas, Tucsons, Sorrentos, XC40s, and RAV4s.

Not to mention the absolute loser in Ford Rangers and Raptors. I can see the use in the SUVs but the Hilux and Raptors are such small dick energy. Lads in construction that don't do work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an American, Tucsons and Rav4 are the small SUVs. Just wait until you have people that barely know how to drive riding around in Suburbans and Sequoias

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are most likely not road legal here assuming they are bigger than these small SUVs. Definitely not fit for anything more than national roads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's probably true, I doubt they'd fit in most parking spaces or make it down a tight street without taking out some mirrors

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Another American. Those are small SUVs. Compare those to a Suburban, Tahoe or the like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I live along the North Circular Road in Dublin and the things are fucking everywhere.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would say that pickup trucks have far more utility than SUVs! Some SUVs are large and 2 wheel drive, with a weak engine. What is their purpose?

Nissan juke for example... a horrendous car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have driven my mother's little Juke around the US. I, personally, find that it is a peppy little thing, though it resembles an angry frog.

I may have gotten lucky, but never had a problem with it through a couple Midwest winters.

I'm just glad she isn't driving a big ol Jeep or Escalade, which she would choose if left to her own devices. She is a small woman and thinks a big car gives her an advantage. Over what? I don't know. I guess boomers are gonna boom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in the UK, and our roads are small. We had small cars:

  • the old mini
  • fiats Etc

But SUVs seem overly large without the added benefit of 4x4, or the carrying capacity/utility of a pick up truck

I hope the SUV trend goes... not everyone needs or wants a car that large!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I remember last time I was in London (in the '00s), the streets are so narrow that the bus couldn't get up the hill to the house where I was saying because too many cars were parked on the road and it wouldn't fit. So I imagine SUVs in London are a nightmare.

And this wasn't even central London, this was Harrow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My wife has a Toyota Rav4 SUV. I don't love SUVs, but I do admit it's been really useful for hauling stuff and it is 4WD so it's much safer in the winter than my smaller Prius.

Now I like tiny cars. My Prius is too big for my comfort level a lot of the time. My dream car is an electrified Nash Metropolitan. But I do have to admit having an SUV has been useful, and with a family of 3, we can still all go to my daughter's friend's house and pick her up and take her to breakfast without having a monster-sized pickup truck.

I don't know if it's still possible, but (I think) the Lowes chain of hardware stores had rentable pickup trucks. That should be more common. Maybe it would encourage fewer purchase of pickup trucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wish. They are seen as status symbols in other countries and have great margins for the sellers.