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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most of the criticisms that come from the right are solvable problems, such as lack of chargers, electricity coming from dirty sources, or lithium mining. We pretty much know how to solve all those at this point. Just a matter of doing it.

Criticisms that come from the left tend to be more fundamental. Things like car-based cities being too spread out, infrastructure costs spiraling out of control, or having the average person operate a 2 ton vehicle at speeds over 60mph and expecting this to be safe. None of those are specific to EVs, and are only solvable by looking at different transportation options.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

But solving problems costs money! We need to be transferring those dollars to our wealthy donors, not spending them on public improvements!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is lithium mining a solvable problem? Genuinely asking

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oceanic sources. The projects getting underway are focusing on brine pools like California's Salton Sea, but sea water sources of lithium in general are basically indefinite, and can work anywhere with a coastline. Other harvested salts may also produce useful byproducts, and you may even be able to run it as part of a general desalination plant for freshwater.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention there are advances with lithium recycling, both in facilities and new processes to make it more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, wouldn't it be an option at some point to switch to other resources? There is so much money being thrown at alternative battery technology

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now, this is interesting!

Seawater contains 230 billion tons of lithium, compared to just 21 million tons in conventional land-based reserves. Lihytech estimates that extracting just 0.1 per cent of all lithium from seawater would be enough to meet humanity's technology needs.

Source: https://www.theengineer.co.uk/content/news/kaust-spinout-will-extract-lithium-from-seawater/