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Tolerating intolerance (i.imgur.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You do realize that these "authoritarians/nazis/fascism/tyrants" use the exact same language when talking about you, right?

Thought is not a crime; ideas are not crimes; political leanings are not a crime; being a racist, nazi, facist, communist, socialist, bigot, homophobe, transphobe or whatever else is not a crime. The moment it becomes one, we start punishing people for what they believe which is IMO and the opinions of many others objectively wrong. You don't do that. Even if you lose, you don't become a barbarian. You fight the ones that act. You fight the ones that actually hurt people. Actions, not thoughts, are what is punishable in a civilized society, so take it easy, Big Brother.

You use "these people" and "they" a lot. You do know that the people you are talking about are individuals, right? Human beings like you? Hurt in maybe a thousand more ways than you. Embracing some terrible hatred to cover whatever brokenness they have. If someone is actually convinced that fascism is the way forward, you're actually ok with enacting violence on them? If you really would be ok with hurting them for their beliefs, then you, my friend, are the one who will bring tyranny; just a tyranny of a different sort. A tyranny of your ideas, your definitions, and your "tolerance." No better than "them."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You do realize that these “authoritarians/nazis/fascism/tyrants” use the exact same language when talking about you, right?

Sure, because they are not acting in good faith and have absolutely no scruple to twist words and meanings.

To quote Jean-Paul Sartre:

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Or to quote Göbbels himself (from his speech on December 4th 1935):

Wenn unsere Gegner sagen: Ja, wir haben Euch doch früher die […] Freiheit der Meinung zugebilligt – –, ja, Ihr uns, das ist doch kein Beweis, daß wir das Euch auch tuen sollen! […] Daß Ihr das uns gegeben habt, – das ist ja ein Beweis dafür, wie dumm Ihr seid!

Translated by DeepL:

If our opponents say: Yes, we have granted you the [...] freedom of opinion before - -, yes, you [granted it to] us, that is no proof that we should do the same to you! [...] That you have given it to us, - that is proof of how stupid you are!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh look.

A tired attempt to frame nazi's as poor persecuted victims by the liberals who are the REAL fascists.. BOY THATS SURE ORIGINAL. /S

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did I mention liberals? I don't recall mentioning liberals.

I make no attempts to justify their actions. People who do hurt others deserve to be punished, no matter their beliefs or motivations. However, you were extremely dehumanizing in your comment. Don't do that. They are still humans. They are still worthy of sympathy, as all humans are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Go be lovey dovy with your nazi beloveds in the afterlife.