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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Did we kill Linux's killer feature? (lemdro.id)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We never lost any "ild system" and the rebooting is probably how your distro implements updates, I use Fedora so mine often wants a reboot but that's definitely not the norm on Linux as far as I know and I never had a device turn back on on it's own...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I first saw that on Fedora, years and years ago. I'm currently running Debian (testing) on my laptop. There was definitely some change at some point.

Well. It's more, I click shutdown and because Linux has been 500% reliable for me, immediately shut the lid and throw the thing into my backpack. And instead of a shutdown, it tries to reboot, apply the updates and then do the shut down. But that fails because I use full disk encryption and it just sits at the password prompt until I pull it out again. Just heating my backpack from the inside and depleating the battery. So technically it doesn't turn on on its own. It just doesn't turn off as expected.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I feel you. At some point distro designers decided that shutdown/reboot were suggestions instead of commands. I too have had troubles with hot backpack syndrome and it's super annoying especially when traveling. You think you're going to turn on your laptop on a plane with 100% battery ready to do some offline work and now you've got a lava hot brick with 7% battery life left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, that sounds like a really annoying issue, good luck finding a solution!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hehe, thanks. Fortunately linux is very customizable. I'm pretty sure I can just set it to 'false' somewhere. Will google that at some point. I just have to find out what it's called so I know which words to type into google ;)