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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Did we kill Linux's killer feature? (lemdro.id)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Except doesn't ubumtu now force a snap on you even if you try installing a package app?

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The solution is to use any of the other hundreds of readily available distributions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I dont have flatpak or snap integration installed so packages are packages. I think it was Ubuntu being delivered with snap as part of the OS. As well as CLI ads.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm confused by this. If I run apt install, am I getting stuff from flatpak?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and no, you're getting stuff form Snap, not flatpak

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even when I'm running apt directly? That seems insane.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yep, that's why some people are so upset about it. I guess there's a config to disable it but I wouldn't know, I use Arch btw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You have to check your distros info, but from popular Linux podcasts they were claiming certain distros used the apt get but once the package manager saw what you want it would throw in a snap or flatpak of the same. Not all distros. I think Ubuntu was one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes. Some packages are just meta packages for their snap versions.