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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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[–] [email protected] 280 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then change the business model or fail.

One could easily imagine a business that only works if they pay employees 50 cents a day. Such a business has no place in a society that respects human dignity.

If your business depends on purchasing a third of someone's waking hours but cannot afford to pay them enough to live securely and comfortably in exchange, then your "business model" depends on poverty to continue.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A McDonalds company help line used to advise their employees on how to apply for foodstamps. McDonalds is one of the largest employers of people who receive Medicaid and food stamps in the US. They've been using the social safety net as a form of government subsidies by the back door for years.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So does Walmart.

Minimum wage should pay enough to live a minimum life. It doesn’t. Not even close

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Walmart is especially egregious because the SNAP benefits that subsidize their employees' wages are often being used at Walmart. After all, if you need groceries why not pick them up at the store you work at after your shift?

So not only do they not pay their workers enough by letting taxpayers subsidize wages, some of that taxpayer subsidy goes right into their pockets.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Oh, I just realized what needs to be done. You know how many states come after the families of people who died on Medicaid to get the money back, seizing inheritance and assets? How about instead of that, they start charging businesses for employees being on government assistance? Just straight fine them for every employee who has to be on food stamps, cash assistance, or Medicaid. Idk, 10k/employee/year sounds about right. Then paying them all +9k/year becomes the cheaper option.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Kind of like using tips to fill in for low wages, but with taking advantage of government help.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Sort of funny that a food company doesn't pay you enough to buy food so tells you to buy food stamps....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is basically a subsidy for McDonalds. If the only way a company can be rich is by subsidies, maybe it shouldn't exist in the "free market".

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

This is exactly the thing.

If a business cannot afford to pay its employees a living wage, that business is insolvent. What we have currently are a bunch of insolvent businesses that think they aren't insolvent because they've been allowed to pay poverty wages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol they are moments away from not needing any staff at all

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah right … it is of course way easier and cheaper to build a hightech food factory in almost every town that is able to create at least a dozen of different dishes than paying the employees 20$ per hour. The technicians that repair those robots will of course also work for less than 20$. /s

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember when you said the same thing about touch screen order points, and menus on flat screen TVS at the drive thru .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Quit talking BS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ive been hearing that for at least ten years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's what they said a decade ago with all the articles about the automated hamburger machine: https://www.businessinsider.com/burger-robot-could-revolutionize-fast-food-industry-2012-11

If they couldn't even incorporate this technology just for burgers into their restaurants after a decade, what makes you think they can cover the entire menu plus serving these items to customers in just "moments away"?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Registered nurses in India make like $100/month

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

And they can buy a decent restaurant meal for around $3. I'm not sure what you think your point is here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don‘t know what the going rate for registered nurses in the US is - but you probably will at least get 20$…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want to say the going rate is around $40/hour for registered nurses but I’m sure it varies depending on city/state in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's about the median, correct

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s super variable. Travel nurses in OB at my hospital were making $225 an hour. This was in rural CA where the average nurse made low $100k a year though. Some in red states are still in the $50k range though.